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Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere. And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshi

Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere. And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then main shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.

anonfordays 2y ago
>Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere. From mastering: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) >And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then main shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion. And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then master shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.
- consteval 2y ago
  Okay I'm not the one who advocated to change master. That's already been done. Now we have people advocating to change BACK to master. Also really? Audio mastering? And which, pray tell, do you believe came first?
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    >Okay I'm not the one who advocated to change master. That's already been done. Now we have people advocating to change BACK to master. I don't believe that is what's being argued. >Also really? Audio mastering? Yes, audio mastering. The developer that created the concept of master branches in git specifically outlined his influence was from the concept of audio mastering (master recordings) [0]. >And which, pray tell, do you believe came first? Audio mastering came before git master branches. [0] https://archive.is/JB9Y8 https://archive.is/JB9Y8
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      - anonfordays 2y ago
        >I don't know if you're bring purposefully obtuse, I hope not, but obviously I meant "master" came from slavery before audio, and audio took that terminology because it was already a popular word. I don't know if you're bring purposefully delusional, I hope not, but obviously I meant "master" came from master piece before audio, and audio took that terminology because it was already a popular word. Because of, you know, mastering something? >Yes audio mastering came before git, and slavery came before both. I don't even know why someone would even bother to argue otherwise. Luckily "master" in this context has absolutely nothing to do with slavery, so your comment is an immaterial non sequitur. The use of "master" in git has no historical or etymological ties to slavery whatsoever as outlined above. QED.
        consteval 2y ago
        > The use of "master" in git has no historical or etymological ties to slavery whatsoever as outlined above. QED. Not the argument I, or anyone else, is making The use of "master" in Git may remind someone of slavery, which we don't want to do. For their sake. That's the argument actually being made and I think you'll notice it's much harder, if not impossible, to refute. That's the argument you need to target, not whatever high school debate class strawman you can come up with. Anyone can win an argument against an easy, made up argument.
        anonfordays 2y ago
        >Not the argument I, or anyone else, is making That was the exact argument others were making. >The use of "master" in Git may remind someone of slavery, which we don't want to do. For their sake. The removal of "master" in git may remind others of fascism, which we don't want to do. For their sake. >That's the argument actually being made They'd be delusional and wrong because the etymology doesn't stem from slavery. >and I think you'll notice it's much harder, if not impossible, to refute. Just refuted it LOL! >That's the argument you need to target Just did. >whatever high school debate class strawman you can come up with. There were no strawmen in my arguments. >Anyone can win an argument against an easy, made up argument. Glad that's not what I did.
  - zahlman 2y ago
    > I'm not the one who advocated to change master. That's already been done. Only for specific projects. I continue to use "master" for my own projects, because I disagree that the proposed reason to change has merit. > Now we have people advocating to change BACK to master. For the existing projects of others? Can you show any examples? > Also really? Audio mastering? Disbelief does not constitute an argument. > And which, pray tell, do you believe came first? I won't speak for the other poster, but as a matter of simple fact, Git was initially released in 2005, while other VCSes using the term may date as far back as 1969 (https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/21859/); https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/21859/); the concept of audio mastering dates to at least the 1920s with the introduction of the microphone (per the Wikipedia link), and in turn presumably has its roots in the idea of a "master copy" of text or artwork to be printed.
    - consteval 2y ago
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      - zahlman 2y ago
        > could just as easily use your exact argument to say Audio got it from slavery. Which is what I'm doing. You're welcome to say this, but it has no basis in fact.
        anonfordays 2y ago
        No response from him. BTFO.
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mixmastamyk 2y ago
Americans like to think they invented racism and slavery, but it isn't the case. It's older than the Roman Empire, of course: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery Historically anyone could be a slave, so conflating it primarily with racism is sloppy argumentation. (I wanted to reply to your post above, but couldn't because it is dead.)

anonfordays 2y ago

>Ok but where do you think the term comes from? It didn't spawn into common use out of nowhere. From mastering: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) >And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then main shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion. And I'll say - I don't think it matters. It's all stupid bullshit in my eyes. But if it doesn't matter, which it doesn't, then master shouldn't be a problem. In my opinion.

consteval 2y ago
Okay I'm not the one who advocated to change master. That's already been done. Now we have people advocating to change BACK to master. Also really? Audio mastering? And which, pray tell, do you believe came first?
- anonfordays 2y ago
  >Okay I'm not the one who advocated to change master. That's already been done. Now we have people advocating to change BACK to master. I don't believe that is what's being argued. >Also really? Audio mastering? Yes, audio mastering. The developer that created the concept of master branches in git specifically outlined his influence was from the concept of audio mastering (master recordings) [0]. >And which, pray tell, do you believe came first? Audio mastering came before git master branches. [0] https://archive.is/JB9Y8 https://archive.is/JB9Y8
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    - anonfordays 2y ago
      >I don't know if you're bring purposefully obtuse, I hope not, but obviously I meant "master" came from slavery before audio, and audio took that terminology because it was already a popular word. I don't know if you're bring purposefully delusional, I hope not, but obviously I meant "master" came from master piece before audio, and audio took that terminology because it was already a popular word. Because of, you know, mastering something? >Yes audio mastering came before git, and slavery came before both. I don't even know why someone would even bother to argue otherwise. Luckily "master" in this context has absolutely nothing to do with slavery, so your comment is an immaterial non sequitur. The use of "master" in git has no historical or etymological ties to slavery whatsoever as outlined above. QED.
      - consteval 2y ago
        > The use of "master" in git has no historical or etymological ties to slavery whatsoever as outlined above. QED. Not the argument I, or anyone else, is making The use of "master" in Git may remind someone of slavery, which we don't want to do. For their sake. That's the argument actually being made and I think you'll notice it's much harder, if not impossible, to refute. That's the argument you need to target, not whatever high school debate class strawman you can come up with. Anyone can win an argument against an easy, made up argument.
        anonfordays 2y ago
        >Not the argument I, or anyone else, is making That was the exact argument others were making. >The use of "master" in Git may remind someone of slavery, which we don't want to do. For their sake. The removal of "master" in git may remind others of fascism, which we don't want to do. For their sake. >That's the argument actually being made They'd be delusional and wrong because the etymology doesn't stem from slavery. >and I think you'll notice it's much harder, if not impossible, to refute. Just refuted it LOL! >That's the argument you need to target Just did. >whatever high school debate class strawman you can come up with. There were no strawmen in my arguments. >Anyone can win an argument against an easy, made up argument. Glad that's not what I did.
- zahlman 2y ago
  > I'm not the one who advocated to change master. That's already been done. Only for specific projects. I continue to use "master" for my own projects, because I disagree that the proposed reason to change has merit. > Now we have people advocating to change BACK to master. For the existing projects of others? Can you show any examples? > Also really? Audio mastering? Disbelief does not constitute an argument. > And which, pray tell, do you believe came first? I won't speak for the other poster, but as a matter of simple fact, Git was initially released in 2005, while other VCSes using the term may date as far back as 1969 (https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/21859/); https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/21859/); the concept of audio mastering dates to at least the 1920s with the introduction of the microphone (per the Wikipedia link), and in turn presumably has its roots in the idea of a "master copy" of text or artwork to be printed.
  - consteval 2y ago
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    - zahlman 2y ago
      > could just as easily use your exact argument to say Audio got it from slavery. Which is what I'm doing. You're welcome to say this, but it has no basis in fact.
      - anonfordays 2y ago
        No response from him. BTFO.
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mixmastamyk 2y ago

Americans like to think they invented racism and slavery, but it isn't the case. It's older than the Roman Empire, of course: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery Historically anyone could be a slave, so conflating it primarily with racism is sloppy argumentation. (I wanted to reply to your post above, but couldn't because it is dead.)