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It absolutely is released like that. Please note that 'such as' does not mean 'all', 'a majority', or anything like that. It simply means 'one example'. (I eat

by gwern 2y ago

It absolutely is released like that. Please note that 'such as' does not mean 'all', 'a majority', or anything like that. It simply means 'one example'. (I eat many things 'such as' honey, yet that doesn't make me Winnie the Pooh.) And enclosures come up regularly here on HN where suddenly a company has embarked on a new incredible journey involving 'not releasing all the source code anymore under an OSI-approved license', so they are not even that exotic an outcome.

gwern 2y ago
Today, for example, on Twitter, people are pointing out that Runway, which made a big deal out of how they were releasing DL models and not keeping them proprietary, has quietly deleted all its stuff on HuggingFace. (Much like how, say, Mistral decided that it was no longer releasing all its models, after presenting itself as the big open model champion opposed to OA.) Only a five-year-old child is either surprised or angered by this turn of events.
- talldayo 2y ago
  Twitter is the epitome of people who "don't get it". For one, you don't use Twitter anymore because the damn website doesn't exist. Your new website, 'X' is filled with boiling frogs that (somehow) expect things to get better. People that don't get the proverbial memo when a neo-Nazi buys their website and replaces it's logo with a half-swastika. It would not be exaggeration to say that the quality and prestige of 'X' chatter is about as worthwhile as 4chan's resident opinion. For two - they can't do shit. Every one of those businesses can try to pivot into being the next OpenAI, but even OpenAI can't be fucked to turn a profit. They can't retract their models (remember Llama 1.0? hahahahahahahahaha) and they can't piss and moan to the authorities when their weights leak because 99% of them contain unlicensed copyrighted material in the first place. The real twist to this Gordian knot? Open source is the only model you can release conventional AI under, because anything else precludes a Fair Use defense. Everyone that has "proprietary" models only manages it by playing keep-away with the community. > Only a five-year-old child is either surprised or angered by this turn of events. Five year old children know that they can keep their toys once they stop selling them at Wal-mart. Pulling a model off HF doesn't stop new finetunes or even redistribution and re-quantization of the old model. Mistral and Runway can do whatever they want, all their models are belong to us.

by gwern 2y ago

gwern 2y ago

Today, for example, on Twitter, people are pointing out that Runway, which made a big deal out of how they were releasing DL models and not keeping them proprietary, has quietly deleted all its stuff on HuggingFace. (Much like how, say, Mistral decided that it was no longer releasing all its models, after presenting itself as the big open model champion opposed to OA.) Only a five-year-old child is either surprised or angered by this turn of events.

talldayo 2y ago
Twitter is the epitome of people who "don't get it". For one, you don't use Twitter anymore because the damn website doesn't exist. Your new website, 'X' is filled with boiling frogs that (somehow) expect things to get better. People that don't get the proverbial memo when a neo-Nazi buys their website and replaces it's logo with a half-swastika. It would not be exaggeration to say that the quality and prestige of 'X' chatter is about as worthwhile as 4chan's resident opinion. For two - they can't do shit. Every one of those businesses can try to pivot into being the next OpenAI, but even OpenAI can't be fucked to turn a profit. They can't retract their models (remember Llama 1.0? hahahahahahahahaha) and they can't piss and moan to the authorities when their weights leak because 99% of them contain unlicensed copyrighted material in the first place. The real twist to this Gordian knot? Open source is the only model you can release conventional AI under, because anything else precludes a Fair Use defense. Everyone that has "proprietary" models only manages it by playing keep-away with the community. > Only a five-year-old child is either surprised or angered by this turn of events. Five year old children know that they can keep their toys once they stop selling them at Wal-mart. Pulling a model off HF doesn't stop new finetunes or even redistribution and re-quantization of the old model. Mistral and Runway can do whatever they want, all their models are belong to us.