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Firefox is still working great for me, and I intend to keep using it for the foreseeable future. I don't know what it might take for people to migrate away fro

Firefox is still working great for me, and I intend to keep using it for the foreseeable future. I don't know what it might take for people to migrate away from Chrome en masse, but the alternative is there.

nicce 2y ago
Mozilla is slowly turning to ad company too. Let's see what future brings us.
- delfinom 2y ago
  I mean...they have to fund operations somehow. There's no money in pure open source in today's society.
  - yencabulator 2y ago
    Mozilla has a lot of money, almost none of which is spent on Firefox/Servo. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-invest...
- devrand 2y ago
  And the recent antitrust ruling against Google might see Mozilla lose like 80% of their revenue...
  - squarefoot 2y ago
    A sane company would then give the boot to their overpaid CEO and hire back talented developers. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-report-ceo-pay-skyrockets-while-firefox-marketshare-nosedives https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-...
    - pndy 2y ago
      Mozilla has a range of different priorities now and most of these do not revolve around the flagship project which Firefox should be. --- I remember reading news in 2005 saying that Mozilla has established its Corporation subsidiary - and I had a bad feelings about it at that time. And years later we can see the effects - what's the revenue, how browsers market share looks like. Now, every time I'm reading that project, foundation xyz is creating "for profit" branch, subsidiary I know that this most likely won't end well. Profits will go over users needs, wishes each time and those at the project will change as well. It's like a magic wand appears and turns open-minded contributors into some mindless corporate drones with an arrogant attitude. I want to still like Firefox but in last 14 years Mozilla managed to seriously deteriorate trust in its capabilities of handling their main product. And I also cannot fathom how they managed to screw up promotion of the browser and let Google dominate the market. That didn't happen overnight but Google at some point started to bundle their browser as "additional offer" in almost every software installer for Windows, while Mozilla did nothing similar.
    - tristan957 2y ago
      Lunduke is a known right wing propagandist. Engaging with any of his content is a waste of time.
      - squarefoot 2y ago
        Thanks for the information. I'm the last person who would spread right wing stuff, the link came from a search, however in this case the problem about the overpaid Mozilla CEO and developers being sacked is real and well known outside politically involved sites.
      - chgs 2y ago
        There’s a massive overlap between right wing activists and anti-Firefox commentators
- kitkat_new 2y ago
  I look forward to Verso https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41215727 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41215727
kevwil 2y ago
Firefox is usually great for me, but with Chromium-based browsers having such a massive market share monopoly I do occasionally find a website that doesn't work properly on Firefox. But, I will stick with Firefox as long as possible.
- raybb 2y ago
  Do you have any recent examples? It's more often I see websites that claim they don't work with firefox but actually do if you change your user agent.
  - EasyMark 2y ago
    Yeah I keep hearing this but it never pans out, seems like in my experience a lot of people don’t know they might have to turn off an extension or two (ublock, built-in trackers, etc) to get a website to work.
  - paulryanrogers 2y ago
    YouTube, FreshDesk, Google TV (sharing from Firefox)
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      Huh? I use YouTube all the time on Firefox and it's fine. Better than fine, really, thanks to the YouTube improvement extension I have loaded. Never heard of the other two though.
      - 71bw 2y ago
        Google is essentially using A/B testing methods to slow it down for one group of FF users while keeping it absolutely fine for another. Funnily enough, I've been placed in this 'slowdown' group even though I am a Premium subscriber ever since it launched (post-Red renaming) and another channel on the same Google account has 0 issues in the same browser on the same PC etc.
  - 2y ago

nicce 2y ago

Mozilla is slowly turning to ad company too. Let's see what future brings us.

delfinom 2y ago
I mean...they have to fund operations somehow. There's no money in pure open source in today's society.
- yencabulator 2y ago
  Mozilla has a lot of money, almost none of which is spent on Firefox/Servo. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-invest...
devrand 2y ago
And the recent antitrust ruling against Google might see Mozilla lose like 80% of their revenue...
- squarefoot 2y ago
  A sane company would then give the boot to their overpaid CEO and hire back talented developers. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-report-ceo-pay-skyrockets-while-firefox-marketshare-nosedives https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5053290/mozilla-2023-annual-...
  - pndy 2y ago
    Mozilla has a range of different priorities now and most of these do not revolve around the flagship project which Firefox should be. --- I remember reading news in 2005 saying that Mozilla has established its Corporation subsidiary - and I had a bad feelings about it at that time. And years later we can see the effects - what's the revenue, how browsers market share looks like. Now, every time I'm reading that project, foundation xyz is creating "for profit" branch, subsidiary I know that this most likely won't end well. Profits will go over users needs, wishes each time and those at the project will change as well. It's like a magic wand appears and turns open-minded contributors into some mindless corporate drones with an arrogant attitude. I want to still like Firefox but in last 14 years Mozilla managed to seriously deteriorate trust in its capabilities of handling their main product. And I also cannot fathom how they managed to screw up promotion of the browser and let Google dominate the market. That didn't happen overnight but Google at some point started to bundle their browser as "additional offer" in almost every software installer for Windows, while Mozilla did nothing similar.
  - tristan957 2y ago
    Lunduke is a known right wing propagandist. Engaging with any of his content is a waste of time.
    - squarefoot 2y ago
      Thanks for the information. I'm the last person who would spread right wing stuff, the link came from a search, however in this case the problem about the overpaid Mozilla CEO and developers being sacked is real and well known outside politically involved sites.
    - chgs 2y ago
      There’s a massive overlap between right wing activists and anti-Firefox commentators
kitkat_new 2y ago
I look forward to Verso https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41215727 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41215727

kevwil 2y ago

Firefox is usually great for me, but with Chromium-based browsers having such a massive market share monopoly I do occasionally find a website that doesn't work properly on Firefox. But, I will stick with Firefox as long as possible.

raybb 2y ago
Do you have any recent examples? It's more often I see websites that claim they don't work with firefox but actually do if you change your user agent.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  Yeah I keep hearing this but it never pans out, seems like in my experience a lot of people don’t know they might have to turn off an extension or two (ublock, built-in trackers, etc) to get a website to work.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  YouTube, FreshDesk, Google TV (sharing from Firefox)
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    Huh? I use YouTube all the time on Firefox and it's fine. Better than fine, really, thanks to the YouTube improvement extension I have loaded. Never heard of the other two though.
    - 71bw 2y ago
      Google is essentially using A/B testing methods to slow it down for one group of FF users while keeping it absolutely fine for another. Funnily enough, I've been placed in this 'slowdown' group even though I am a Premium subscriber ever since it launched (post-Red renaming) and another channel on the same Google account has 0 issues in the same browser on the same PC etc.
- 2y ago