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Has the parent comment already fallen out of your context window? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386593 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386593 Th

Has the parent comment already fallen out of your context window? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386593 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386593 That’s exactly what I’m suggesting, you’re wasting my time if you can’t even keep track of a basic thread.

Retric 2y ago
> out of your context window Nope, the original context: There are no jobs that want jobless people. There's few that even want 18 year olds Your response was: Plenty of work for prison laborers. My response of “at 20-50 cents an hour, but that’s not really relevant here.“ Obviously 20-50 cents is the nominal prison labor rate, but it also excludes the overhead of keeping prisoners which is what makes it “irrelevant” as a cost. Thus by responding to the nominal rate you implicitly acknowledged we are no longer talking about prisoners because the actual cost of prison labor is ~64,000$ / year / inmate not their nominal wage.
- dumbo-octopus 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41401102 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41401102
  - Retric 2y ago
    “No, because the people are already a net drain on society.” Not a 64,000$ drain on society. There’s roughly 1 correction officer per 4.9 inmates and that excludes many jobs associated with prisoners like administrative staff etc. Inmates are really fucking expensive.
    - dumbo-octopus 2y ago
      Oh you sweet summer child. I wish they only cost the taxpayers 64k a pop. (again, purely financial, ignoring the heath/safety/psychological). > a single shelter bed could cost up to $70,000 https://sfstandard.com/2022/12/30/ending-homelessness-in-san-francisco-will-cost-1-4-billion-city-says/ https://sfstandard.com/2022/12/30/ending-homelessness-in-san...
      - Retric 2y ago
        64k is a slightly outdated national average. California pays $132,860 per inmate (2023) and SF is higher than that.

Retric 2y ago

> out of your context window Nope, the original context: There are no jobs that want jobless people. There's few that even want 18 year olds Your response was: Plenty of work for prison laborers. My response of “at 20-50 cents an hour, but that’s not really relevant here.“ Obviously 20-50 cents is the nominal prison labor rate, but it also excludes the overhead of keeping prisoners which is what makes it “irrelevant” as a cost. Thus by responding to the nominal rate you implicitly acknowledged we are no longer talking about prisoners because the actual cost of prison labor is ~64,000$ / year / inmate not their nominal wage.

dumbo-octopus 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41401102 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41401102
- Retric 2y ago
  “No, because the people are already a net drain on society.” Not a 64,000$ drain on society. There’s roughly 1 correction officer per 4.9 inmates and that excludes many jobs associated with prisoners like administrative staff etc. Inmates are really fucking expensive.
  - dumbo-octopus 2y ago
    Oh you sweet summer child. I wish they only cost the taxpayers 64k a pop. (again, purely financial, ignoring the heath/safety/psychological). > a single shelter bed could cost up to $70,000 https://sfstandard.com/2022/12/30/ending-homelessness-in-san-francisco-will-cost-1-4-billion-city-says/ https://sfstandard.com/2022/12/30/ending-homelessness-in-san...
    - Retric 2y ago
      64k is a slightly outdated national average. California pays $132,860 per inmate (2023) and SF is higher than that.