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I was curious about the no passwords feature so I started a page. I logged out, and then tried to create a page with the same family name. Wow- still valid. "us

by diN0bot 18y ago

I was curious about the no passwords feature so I started a page. I logged out, and then tried to create a page with the same family name. Wow- still valid. "username" isn't a limited resource. neat. passwords/usernames are rolled into a single url with a long random sequence tacked onto the end. Hardly something I could remember, though the 30 day login might be sufficient. I wonder what kind of feedback you get about this. Neat attempt at not having usernames/passwords.

jasonlbaptiste 18y ago
Thanks din0bot! Some insight: So the cookies are set at one year. Each person also gets an email when something is posted, with their unique login link. The only time a user would really need to access that url again is in two pretty rare scenarios: a) theyre not at their own computer b) they clear their cookies. this is for everyday people, and that just isnt an often occurrence. Obviously though not often, these are occurrences. To deal with that, we let people recover links my having it sent to their email address. We may let people set an optional password. Any thoughts or other ideas?
- cosmo7 18y ago
  Without wanting to sound negative, you've assumed that family names represent families. This might have been true 50 or 100 years ago, but now many families are non-nuclear. It isn't unusual for a family to include three different last names. By overlooking this, you're alienating your potentials.
markbao 18y ago
(Ramamia developer here) We get some negative feedback about not having passwords. So I think the way we're going to approach this is allow people to use their instant login link anytime, so they can bookmark it, keep requesting it from the homepage when they aren't logged in, etc., but also allow them to set a password in the user settings. If they aren't logged in, and set a password, they can log in immediately with their password. If they didn't set a password, or forgot it, they can request an instant login link be sent to their email again. A big portion of the family market are people that aren't insanely knowledgeable about the internet. They can bookmark the instant login link when they're logged out, or they can check their email to get it again. For people on the go, this will allow them to check their site by just logging in even without an instant login link. In fact, the new period that we remember you for is 6 months. As long as you don't clear your cookies, we'll remember you for that long and you won't have to login again. Also, re: usernames, nope - even if there are thousands of Smith family accounts, it doesn't make sense to stuff them into one family.
- diN0bot 18y ago
  cool. perhaps i misunderstand things, but it seems that anyone who gets a hold of the url (friends? search engines?) has both viewing and editing power.
  - markbao 18y ago
    Yeah, which is why we're phasing out the family URLs. Also, search engines are prohibited from indexing that content.

by diN0bot 18y ago

jasonlbaptiste 18y ago

Thanks din0bot! Some insight: So the cookies are set at one year. Each person also gets an email when something is posted, with their unique login link. The only time a user would really need to access that url again is in two pretty rare scenarios: a) theyre not at their own computer b) they clear their cookies. this is for everyday people, and that just isnt an often occurrence. Obviously though not often, these are occurrences. To deal with that, we let people recover links my having it sent to their email address. We may let people set an optional password. Any thoughts or other ideas?

cosmo7 18y ago
Without wanting to sound negative, you've assumed that family names represent families. This might have been true 50 or 100 years ago, but now many families are non-nuclear. It isn't unusual for a family to include three different last names. By overlooking this, you're alienating your potentials.

markbao 18y ago

(Ramamia developer here) We get some negative feedback about not having passwords. So I think the way we're going to approach this is allow people to use their instant login link anytime, so they can bookmark it, keep requesting it from the homepage when they aren't logged in, etc., but also allow them to set a password in the user settings. If they aren't logged in, and set a password, they can log in immediately with their password. If they didn't set a password, or forgot it, they can request an instant login link be sent to their email again. A big portion of the family market are people that aren't insanely knowledgeable about the internet. They can bookmark the instant login link when they're logged out, or they can check their email to get it again. For people on the go, this will allow them to check their site by just logging in even without an instant login link. In fact, the new period that we remember you for is 6 months. As long as you don't clear your cookies, we'll remember you for that long and you won't have to login again. Also, re: usernames, nope - even if there are thousands of Smith family accounts, it doesn't make sense to stuff them into one family.

diN0bot 18y ago
cool. perhaps i misunderstand things, but it seems that anyone who gets a hold of the url (friends? search engines?) has both viewing and editing power.
- markbao 18y ago
  Yeah, which is why we're phasing out the family URLs. Also, search engines are prohibited from indexing that content.