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I used to be an avid user of screen, then later on tmux. My terminal directly launched a session upon opening. But something that was always bugging me was the

I used to be an avid user of screen, then later on tmux. My terminal directly launched a session upon opening. But something that was always bugging me was the "ssh unawareness" - I've always wanted to be able to do splits on the remote end, but that was simply not possible without nesting sessions. Now, I've switched my terminal to wezterm, which fills all my multiplexing needs, as it supports this exact "remote-or-local-splits" usecase (with some setup, of course).

ur-whale 2y ago
> with some setup, of course Care to share the config ? [EDIT]: and on the topic of modern terminal emulator vs screen/tmux type solutions ... there is of course some feature overlap for which modern terminal emulators are clearly better (my opinion), such as window / pane management. However, screen and tmux are simply amazing for long-term backgrounding of tasks and/or sessions. There are some "daemon"-type tasks that I almost exclusively run under screen, only moving them to a systemd-type session control system long after they've been properly debugged and tested. There are also some semi-permanently running shell sessions that keep alive with screen on remote servers to instantly recover full context of what I was doing there, sometimes weeks apart (old brains become forgetful and need crutches). Are modern term emulator like wezterm capable of pulling that off these days ?
- panki27 2y ago
  > Care to share the config ? My config is a little overwhelming, but you'll find your answers here: https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/ssh.html https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/ssh.html > Are modern term emulator like wezterm capable of pulling that off these days ? https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/multiplexing.html https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/multiplexing.html
samgranieri 2y ago
I started with screen and Terminal.app, then I switched to tmux and iTerm. Now i"m on wezterm and zellij. Works great! Still, I'm happy to see work on screen continuing.
- paranoidxprod 2y ago
  What do you use Zellij for that isn't covered by Wezterm? I used Zellij in Alacritty and now in Foot, but recently tried Wezterm and the features it offered really seemed to match what Zellij offers. I didn't need two ways to do splits, tabs, sessions so I'm back to Foot/Zellij, but was just curious to your use-case.
  - samgranieri 2y ago
    I use zellij's session resurrection all the time, it saves me time. It's kind of like tmuxinator. I'm not sure if zellij can do that, and coming from tmux, zellij was an easy change.
    - wyclif 2y ago
      tmux and zellij don't completely overlap on features, though. So I'm pretty sure some people are using both.

ur-whale 2y ago

> with some setup, of course Care to share the config ? [EDIT]: and on the topic of modern terminal emulator vs screen/tmux type solutions ... there is of course some feature overlap for which modern terminal emulators are clearly better (my opinion), such as window / pane management. However, screen and tmux are simply amazing for long-term backgrounding of tasks and/or sessions. There are some "daemon"-type tasks that I almost exclusively run under screen, only moving them to a systemd-type session control system long after they've been properly debugged and tested. There are also some semi-permanently running shell sessions that keep alive with screen on remote servers to instantly recover full context of what I was doing there, sometimes weeks apart (old brains become forgetful and need crutches). Are modern term emulator like wezterm capable of pulling that off these days ?

panki27 2y ago
> Care to share the config ? My config is a little overwhelming, but you'll find your answers here: https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/ssh.html https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/ssh.html > Are modern term emulator like wezterm capable of pulling that off these days ? https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/multiplexing.html https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/multiplexing.html

samgranieri 2y ago

I started with screen and Terminal.app, then I switched to tmux and iTerm. Now i"m on wezterm and zellij. Works great! Still, I'm happy to see work on screen continuing.

paranoidxprod 2y ago
What do you use Zellij for that isn't covered by Wezterm? I used Zellij in Alacritty and now in Foot, but recently tried Wezterm and the features it offered really seemed to match what Zellij offers. I didn't need two ways to do splits, tabs, sessions so I'm back to Foot/Zellij, but was just curious to your use-case.
- samgranieri 2y ago
  I use zellij's session resurrection all the time, it saves me time. It's kind of like tmuxinator. I'm not sure if zellij can do that, and coming from tmux, zellij was an easy change.
  - wyclif 2y ago
    tmux and zellij don't completely overlap on features, though. So I'm pretty sure some people are using both.