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Sounds like it was done via the media, not the correct internal channels.

lawn 2y ago
That's usually the only option when nobody listens.
dathinab 2y ago
but do "correct internal channels" exist, are accessible by the people people in raising concerns (especially potentially anonymously) and are not ignored? because most times they aren't really usable if they even exist and raising concerns on such channels can often get you in as much trouble as doing so publicly -- but without you concerns being pretty much guaranteed ignored
Pingk 2y ago
Maybe, but it was already public knowledge: > In September 2023 the government regulator, the Office of Rail and Road (ORR), had issued an improvement notice to Network Rail about overcrowding at the station, warning: “You have failed to implement, so far as reasonably practicable, effective measures to prevent risks to health and safety of passengers (and other persons at the station) during passenger surges and overcrowding events at London Euston Station.” It's concerning to me that Hendy was the chair of Network Rail from 2015 before becoming Transport Minister, and here he is sacking someone after a comment about his former workplace. Should definitely be an investigation into his motives/incentives IMO
- londons_explore 2y ago
  "public" via a set of documents hidden deep on an official webpage is very different to "public" as a news headline.
  - rcxdude 2y ago
    But it is presumably the "Correct internal channels"?
  - Doctor_Fegg 2y ago
    Here's the news headline from the time for you: https://news.sky.com/story/network-rail-failing-to-stop-unacceptable-overcrowding-at-euston-train-station-says-rail-regulator-12987047 https://news.sky.com/story/network-rail-failing-to-stop-unac...
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    Irrelevant.
- pastage 2y ago
  I wonder if there are still overcrowding at that station, or if it really was fixed in 2023. A bit of a Streisand effect going on here.
  - luke-stanley 2y ago
    Well, when I was in Euston rail station a few weeks ago, it was very overcrowded. It seemed worse in the day than the night. Seems like the minister is missing the necessity of acting with integrity and transparency, a lesson they frequently need reminding of. Surely there must be better person the PM could find for the job, that don't feel a need write harassing letters, bullying train companies into firing staff?
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lawn 2y ago

That's usually the only option when nobody listens.

but do "correct internal channels" exist, are accessible by the people people in raising concerns (especially potentially anonymously) and are not ignored? because most times they aren't really usable if they even exist and raising concerns on such channels can often get you in as much trouble as doing so publicly -- but without you concerns being pretty much guaranteed ignored

Pingk 2y ago

Maybe, but it was already public knowledge: > In September 2023 the government regulator, the Office of Rail and Road (ORR), had issued an improvement notice to Network Rail about overcrowding at the station, warning: “You have failed to implement, so far as reasonably practicable, effective measures to prevent risks to health and safety of passengers (and other persons at the station) during passenger surges and overcrowding events at London Euston Station.” It's concerning to me that Hendy was the chair of Network Rail from 2015 before becoming Transport Minister, and here he is sacking someone after a comment about his former workplace. Should definitely be an investigation into his motives/incentives IMO

londons_explore 2y ago
"public" via a set of documents hidden deep on an official webpage is very different to "public" as a news headline.
- rcxdude 2y ago
  But it is presumably the "Correct internal channels"?
- Doctor_Fegg 2y ago
  Here's the news headline from the time for you: https://news.sky.com/story/network-rail-failing-to-stop-unacceptable-overcrowding-at-euston-train-station-says-rail-regulator-12987047 https://news.sky.com/story/network-rail-failing-to-stop-unac...
- prmoustache 2y ago
  Irrelevant.
pastage 2y ago
I wonder if there are still overcrowding at that station, or if it really was fixed in 2023. A bit of a Streisand effect going on here.
- luke-stanley 2y ago
  Well, when I was in Euston rail station a few weeks ago, it was very overcrowded. It seemed worse in the day than the night. Seems like the minister is missing the necessity of acting with integrity and transparency, a lesson they frequently need reminding of. Surely there must be better person the PM could find for the job, that don't feel a need write harassing letters, bullying train companies into firing staff?

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