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WP8 release is Fall 2012. OEMs won't begin to have WP8 hardware on carrier shelves until end of 2012* at the earliest. Microsoft just killed Windows Phone for a

by runjake 14y ago

WP8 release is Fall 2012. OEMs won't begin to have WP8 hardware on carrier shelves until end of 2012* at the earliest. Microsoft just killed Windows Phone for at least the next 6 months. I wish Microsoft would see the damage they do when they inappropriately pre-announcing products. * Mango had a similar release scheme last year.

rys 14y ago
With iOS 6 announced and Jelly Bean just around the corner, Microsoft can't really afford to just sit there poker faced until it's done. It's a wise tactic, to maintain interest when it's clear their competitors are moving forwards.
- mc32 14y ago
  Not only that, but end users probably appreciate knowing that anything they bought today would have limited future support --this alternative is better than pulling the rug from under them come 4-5months. That is to say, it hurts MS and partners initially but benefits customers short-term and long-term. What they could announce is some kind of voucher for future phones if they buy now --giving customers a kind of indemnification against obsolescence. Not saying they will, but they could.
  - runjake 14y ago
    So what do you think customers are going to do? They're going to buy an iPhone or an Android device, instead.
    - mc32 14y ago
      It's likely preferable to having their (customers') money but engendering lots of ill-will a few months down the road. I have an iphone 4. With this announcement, I'm willing to wait a few months before buying a WP8 device.
- falling 14y ago
  > Jelly Bean just around the corner Is it? It’s a real question. Currently ICS is installed on < 10% of the devices in circulation, but (I hope) it’s safe to assume OEMs and carriers are working on new devices based on the new operating system and will eventually stop to ship new devices with Gingerbread. If next week Google releases JB, I don’t think they are going to scramble to change their plans to merge the new version, they will probably just wait until they’re done with that and then eventually upgrade, possibly delaying JB even more than ICS already is. I have been wondering what Google plans to do to improve the situation. I guess next week I’ll know the answer.
  - huggyface 14y ago
    Currently ICS is installed on < 10% of the devices in circulation If you're in the market for a device it's available on almost all of them.
- runjake 14y ago
  No, what they need to do is have releasable products ASAP. Pre-announcing hardware/software that won't be available for several months is not a competitive strategy.
r00fus 14y ago
So, Adam Osbourne does a facepalm [1] from his grave? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
- Someone 14y ago
  I bet they think that lost sales of 'old' Windows phones will be offset by a gain in sales of Windows 8 phones by customers who otherwise would have bought a non-Windows smartphone in the following months. Given the relative size of the markets, and assuming they manage to stay in the press (should not be too hard, with Windows 8 shipping, Surface being seeded to bloggers, etc), I think that may be a reasonable idea.

by runjake 14y ago

rys 14y ago

With iOS 6 announced and Jelly Bean just around the corner, Microsoft can't really afford to just sit there poker faced until it's done. It's a wise tactic, to maintain interest when it's clear their competitors are moving forwards.

mc32 14y ago
Not only that, but end users probably appreciate knowing that anything they bought today would have limited future support --this alternative is better than pulling the rug from under them come 4-5months. That is to say, it hurts MS and partners initially but benefits customers short-term and long-term. What they could announce is some kind of voucher for future phones if they buy now --giving customers a kind of indemnification against obsolescence. Not saying they will, but they could.
- runjake 14y ago
  So what do you think customers are going to do? They're going to buy an iPhone or an Android device, instead.
  - mc32 14y ago
    It's likely preferable to having their (customers') money but engendering lots of ill-will a few months down the road. I have an iphone 4. With this announcement, I'm willing to wait a few months before buying a WP8 device.
falling 14y ago
> Jelly Bean just around the corner Is it? It’s a real question. Currently ICS is installed on < 10% of the devices in circulation, but (I hope) it’s safe to assume OEMs and carriers are working on new devices based on the new operating system and will eventually stop to ship new devices with Gingerbread. If next week Google releases JB, I don’t think they are going to scramble to change their plans to merge the new version, they will probably just wait until they’re done with that and then eventually upgrade, possibly delaying JB even more than ICS already is. I have been wondering what Google plans to do to improve the situation. I guess next week I’ll know the answer.
- huggyface 14y ago
  Currently ICS is installed on < 10% of the devices in circulation If you're in the market for a device it's available on almost all of them.
runjake 14y ago
No, what they need to do is have releasable products ASAP. Pre-announcing hardware/software that won't be available for several months is not a competitive strategy.

r00fus 14y ago

So, Adam Osbourne does a facepalm [1] from his grave? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

Someone 14y ago
I bet they think that lost sales of 'old' Windows phones will be offset by a gain in sales of Windows 8 phones by customers who otherwise would have bought a non-Windows smartphone in the following months. Given the relative size of the markets, and assuming they manage to stay in the press (should not be too hard, with Windows 8 shipping, Surface being seeded to bloggers, etc), I think that may be a reasonable idea.