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It's a post by Scaleway (from 2022). Now which cloud provider has a huge interest in offering their customers true "multi-cloud capabilities"? I guess the criti

It's a post by Scaleway (from 2022). Now which cloud provider has a huge interest in offering their customers true "multi-cloud capabilities"? I guess the criticism of GAIA-X is fair as it is probably a multi-million euro deadend (or the usual kind of hidden subsidies to the huge players). I can't figure from the blog post what Scaleway does in terms of "multi-cloud offering" apart from the fact they are taking part in EUCLIDIA.

chipdart 2y ago
> I guess the criticism of GAIA-X is fair as it is probably a multi-million euro deadend (or the usual kind of hidden subsidies to the huge players). Projects like GAIA-X are aimed at eliminating the dependency on US companies for critical infrastructure. A few million are peanuts in the scope of shedding a multi-million dependency.
- krab 2y ago
  + Chinese
  - chipdart 2y ago
    Well not really. China is not a player in cloud computing. All the established cloud providers are US companies - AWS, Azure, GCP, etc. Alibaba cloud is currently one of the top 5 providers but it's market share is heavily skewed by the chinese market and even then it's only single-digit. Among the top 10 cloud provides, 7 are from the US and below the top 3 all other players are barely in the single-digit scale.
    - krab 2y ago
      They specifically mentioned Huawei. The dependency of telecom networks has been discussed repeatedly in Europe. This inititative isn't only about cloud computing.
      - chipdart 2y ago
        > They specifically mentioned Huawei. Not as a cloud provider, but as a secondary shareholder (i.e., is a company really EU if a minority shareholder is non-EU?) and as a reference to Huawei dominating the networking infrastructure market. The last, all on itself, is a strategic concern.
        krab 2y ago
        Yes, exactly.
rfmoz 2y ago
What is the current state of GAIA-X?
- ofrzeta 2y ago
  There was a lot of discussion recently in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41348659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41348659 On their website you can see the "milestones" and there's a "Launch of the new Gaia-X Release (Loire)" mentioned but I couldn't find anything about that "release". So mainly summits, websites and so on.

chipdart 2y ago

> I guess the criticism of GAIA-X is fair as it is probably a multi-million euro deadend (or the usual kind of hidden subsidies to the huge players). Projects like GAIA-X are aimed at eliminating the dependency on US companies for critical infrastructure. A few million are peanuts in the scope of shedding a multi-million dependency.

krab 2y ago
+ Chinese
- chipdart 2y ago
  Well not really. China is not a player in cloud computing. All the established cloud providers are US companies - AWS, Azure, GCP, etc. Alibaba cloud is currently one of the top 5 providers but it's market share is heavily skewed by the chinese market and even then it's only single-digit. Among the top 10 cloud provides, 7 are from the US and below the top 3 all other players are barely in the single-digit scale.
  - krab 2y ago
    They specifically mentioned Huawei. The dependency of telecom networks has been discussed repeatedly in Europe. This inititative isn't only about cloud computing.
    - chipdart 2y ago
      > They specifically mentioned Huawei. Not as a cloud provider, but as a secondary shareholder (i.e., is a company really EU if a minority shareholder is non-EU?) and as a reference to Huawei dominating the networking infrastructure market. The last, all on itself, is a strategic concern.
      - krab 2y ago
        Yes, exactly.

rfmoz 2y ago

What is the current state of GAIA-X?

ofrzeta 2y ago
There was a lot of discussion recently in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41348659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41348659 On their website you can see the "milestones" and there's a "Launch of the new Gaia-X Release (Loire)" mentioned but I couldn't find anything about that "release". So mainly summits, websites and so on.