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> And he is a French citizen, so there might be an explicit obligation to cooperate with law enforcement when requested. Seems unlikely. If French law enforcem

> And he is a French citizen, so there might be an explicit obligation to cooperate with law enforcement when requested. Seems unlikely. If French law enforcement asked a French citizen working at Microsoft in Washington to exfiltrate some data for an investigation, could they be arrested if they didn't do it?

j16sdiz 2y ago
I don't know French law. but, afaik, the Australia and China can do that to their citizen
- linotype 2y ago
  Australia can compel a citizen to break the law in a foreign country?
  - loa_in_ 2y ago
    Yes. In fact every country can.
    - ronsor 2y ago
      In theory, but that might get you prosecuted in the country you currently reside in, which can easily become a political mess for your home country if the reason gets out.
      - viraptor 2y ago
        It's not theoretical. It spans lots of areas, from trivial food safety (you're forbidden/required to wash eggs depending on the country), to social (can't allow / can't deny education for women), and many others. Countries have explicitly conflicting laws in many cases and effectively force people to break another country's laws.
mc32 2y ago
The country where it’s done would likely arrest said person for industrial espionage, if not regular espionage, among other things like unauthorized usage of computer systems, etc.
Scion9066 2y ago
Looks like they couldn't order an employee in Washington to do it but could order someone inside France to provide the data: https://academic.oup.com/book/27039/chapter/196319372 https://academic.oup.com/book/27039/chapter/196319372 "The French Code of Criminal Procedure provides that a réquisition ordering access to computer data can permit access to data that is stored in servers outside of France as long as the réquisition involves a terminal that is located in France with authorized access to the relevant data located abroad, and as long as the access is permitted under international law.7 The location of the data itself is irrelevant."

j16sdiz 2y ago

I don't know French law. but, afaik, the Australia and China can do that to their citizen

linotype 2y ago
Australia can compel a citizen to break the law in a foreign country?
- loa_in_ 2y ago
  Yes. In fact every country can.
  - ronsor 2y ago
    In theory, but that might get you prosecuted in the country you currently reside in, which can easily become a political mess for your home country if the reason gets out.
    - viraptor 2y ago
      It's not theoretical. It spans lots of areas, from trivial food safety (you're forbidden/required to wash eggs depending on the country), to social (can't allow / can't deny education for women), and many others. Countries have explicitly conflicting laws in many cases and effectively force people to break another country's laws.

mc32 2y ago

The country where it’s done would likely arrest said person for industrial espionage, if not regular espionage, among other things like unauthorized usage of computer systems, etc.

Scion9066 2y ago

Looks like they couldn't order an employee in Washington to do it but could order someone inside France to provide the data: https://academic.oup.com/book/27039/chapter/196319372 https://academic.oup.com/book/27039/chapter/196319372 "The French Code of Criminal Procedure provides that a réquisition ordering access to computer data can permit access to data that is stored in servers outside of France as long as the réquisition involves a terminal that is located in France with authorized access to the relevant data located abroad, and as long as the access is permitted under international law.7 The location of the data itself is irrelevant."