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Canada wildfires last year released more carbon than several countries

38 points by will-burner 2y ago

ortusdux 2y ago
Link to the paper (annoying not found in the Reuters article): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07878-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07878-z
darby_nine 2y ago
I guess we're well within the "self-perpetuating feedback loop" at this point.
- pvaldes 2y ago
  I wouldn't call it a loop. More like "orbiting towards the volcano" spiral. Each wildfire makes the next more probable and we only need a faux step into the cone to enter a threshold of "non return without putting serious money on it", but we see also the same patterns again and again since decades. 2021: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-investigation-arson-charges-alberta-1.6053436 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-investigati... 2022: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/conditional-sentence-arson-kamloops-bc-wildfires-2022-1.6979689 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/conditional-... And also: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2022/man-suspected-multiple-arsons-is-arrested-glovertown https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2022/man-suspected-multip... 2023: https://globalnews.ca/news/9673400/arson-alberta-wildfires-intentionally-set-church/ https://globalnews.ca/news/9673400/arson-alberta-wildfires-i... And: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/17/climate/canada-conspiracy-theorist-arson-wildfires-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/17/climate/canada-conspiracy... This is an attack to the country and must be stopped as soon as possible.
aaron695 2y ago
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ahaucnx 2y ago
This -among climate change in general- is one of the reasons we launched the largest crowd sourced real time CO2 map. [1] The main idea behind is to create more awareness on local and regional emissions like the wildfires in Canada as well as to generate public available data with a dense network of CO2 sensors for scientific research. [2] [1] https://www.airgradient.com/map https://www.airgradient.com/map [2] https://www.airgradient.com/blog/airgradient-global-co2-map/ https://www.airgradient.com/blog/airgradient-global-co2-map/
Molitor5901 2y ago
Wow. I do not think people fully appreciate that when a wildfire rips through a community, it's not just leaves and trees, but plastics and everything else.
- geon 2y ago
  Hmm But I assume the fire must leave a lot of unburnt charcoal, so the fire over all might still be carbon neutral?
  - akaru 2y ago
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  - geon 2y ago
    Clarification: When wood burns, it is carbon neutral. When wood turns to charcoal, the carbon becomes pretty much inert. Unless it is burnt, it won’t rot or other wise return to the atmosphere. That makes wood fired charcoal manufacturing carbon negative.
barbazoo 2y ago
This is a good page showing just how bad last year's fire season was compared to the previous 10 years: https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/wildfires-tracker-canada https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/wildfires-track...
pvaldes 2y ago
And many of those wildfires are criminal activity, so maybe the laws should be updated to include the carbon released on big provoked wildfires as an aggravant punishable. Boycotting the future of the humanity for money shouldn't be scott free
hulitu 2y ago
> Canada wildfires last year released more carbon than several countries You should have seen oil fields burning in Irak in 2003. /s

38 points by will-burner 2y ago

Link to the paper (annoying not found in the Reuters article): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07878-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07878-z

darby_nine 2y ago

I guess we're well within the "self-perpetuating feedback loop" at this point.

pvaldes 2y ago
I wouldn't call it a loop. More like "orbiting towards the volcano" spiral. Each wildfire makes the next more probable and we only need a faux step into the cone to enter a threshold of "non return without putting serious money on it", but we see also the same patterns again and again since decades. 2021: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-investigation-arson-charges-alberta-1.6053436 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-investigati... 2022: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/conditional-sentence-arson-kamloops-bc-wildfires-2022-1.6979689 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/conditional-... And also: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2022/man-suspected-multiple-arsons-is-arrested-glovertown https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/news/2022/man-suspected-multip... 2023: https://globalnews.ca/news/9673400/arson-alberta-wildfires-intentionally-set-church/ https://globalnews.ca/news/9673400/arson-alberta-wildfires-i... And: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/17/climate/canada-conspiracy-theorist-arson-wildfires-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/17/climate/canada-conspiracy... This is an attack to the country and must be stopped as soon as possible.

aaron695 2y ago

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ahaucnx 2y ago

This -among climate change in general- is one of the reasons we launched the largest crowd sourced real time CO2 map. [1] The main idea behind is to create more awareness on local and regional emissions like the wildfires in Canada as well as to generate public available data with a dense network of CO2 sensors for scientific research. [2] [1] https://www.airgradient.com/map https://www.airgradient.com/map [2] https://www.airgradient.com/blog/airgradient-global-co2-map/ https://www.airgradient.com/blog/airgradient-global-co2-map/

Molitor5901 2y ago

Wow. I do not think people fully appreciate that when a wildfire rips through a community, it's not just leaves and trees, but plastics and everything else.

geon 2y ago
Hmm But I assume the fire must leave a lot of unburnt charcoal, so the fire over all might still be carbon neutral?
- akaru 2y ago
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- geon 2y ago
  Clarification: When wood burns, it is carbon neutral. When wood turns to charcoal, the carbon becomes pretty much inert. Unless it is burnt, it won’t rot or other wise return to the atmosphere. That makes wood fired charcoal manufacturing carbon negative.

barbazoo 2y ago

This is a good page showing just how bad last year's fire season was compared to the previous 10 years: https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/wildfires-tracker-canada https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/wildfires-track...

pvaldes 2y ago

And many of those wildfires are criminal activity, so maybe the laws should be updated to include the carbon released on big provoked wildfires as an aggravant punishable. Boycotting the future of the humanity for money shouldn't be scott free

hulitu 2y ago

> Canada wildfires last year released more carbon than several countries You should have seen oil fields burning in Irak in 2003. /s