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Fermilab doesn't pay its employees fairly. As such, the only non-scientist engineer employees that stay beyond a few years are ones that would struggle to get a
by OutOfHere 2y ago
Fermilab doesn't pay its employees fairly. As such, the only non-scientist engineer employees that stay beyond a few years are ones that would struggle to get a job elsewhere. This is a good way to breed dysfunction. As for management, if they're not scientists doing science, at least half-time, they shouldn't be there.
- mnky9800n 2y agoThis is a problem across the hard sciences particularly ones with a computational focus. The salaries are, simply put, pathetic. Even at private labs I have friends who make 80-100k USD when industry would pay the same job twice as much. And it's not like 100k is the same 100k it was 5-10 years ago. It's wild that nothing is being done to increase salaries in science. Everyone just seems to bury their heads in the sand and hope someone else will fix it.
- dr-detroit 2y ago[dead]
- rincebrain 2y agoI've always described it as people who valued stability over anything else - not just in the sense of "would not get a job elsewhere", but also "values knowing they're not going to get fired in the next decade no matter what", whether that's because they're there for the benefits or the retirement plan or w/e.
- OutOfHere 2y agoYou may not get fired, but how long could you survive without a raise? Not long. Any raises they give are about 0.01%. The benefits aren't extraordinary in any sense. In fact, they don't give a pension, whereas even a local government does.
- rincebrain 2y agoSome people survive for quite some time, depending on where they are. But notably, if they're linked to academic institutions, you and yours might get significant benefits around continuing education.