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I wrote a few comments earlier about this device, but I thought I'd try and sum up my thoughts on it in one post. This is terribly dangerous. Thus far, they'v
by Qworg 14y ago
I wrote a few comments earlier about this device, but I thought I'd try and sum up my thoughts on it in one post.
This is terribly dangerous. Thus far, they've been lucky - nobody has done something wrong or stupid. That said, it cannot last. Putting industrial robots like this on a moving track, and then putting them close to humans at high speed is a recipe for disaster. This system has a 6 meter by track length operating envelope and moves over 4 meters per second. It also has control over 110kg of material - putting its weight in the 2000kg range (minus the track).
There are safety systems available, but none that are commercialized that will allow humans and robots like this to exist in incredibly close proximity with any expectation of safety. Some of the recent research we completed at Carnegie Mellon points to a future where this is possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Xc4yq-rz0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Xc4yq-rz0
But we're not there yet.
- robomartin 14y agoSee my prior post. This is nothing new. Systems like this have been used in the motion picture industry for decades. As far as I know the safety record is perfect. They take that stuff very seriously.
- Qworg 14y agoExcept the examples you gave are both NOT what they're proposing here. You had robots well away from humans with hardware systems preventing them from impacting human space. The first example didn't even involve humans. This system is meant to be used up close and "in the action".
- drone 14y agoThat is not true at all. Milo and its little brethren have been used for many years, in place and with the actors. In case you missed the notes about it, these systems come with detection, fail-safes, and kill switches to prevent issues. And -always- have a human operator in final control of them. See, for example: http://www.mrmoco.com/images/rigs/talos/img5-fullsize.jpg http://www.mrmoco.com/images/rigs/talos/img5-fullsize.jpg
- Qworg 14y agoThat system doesn't appear to be able to even reach the actor. What detection? What fail-safes? This new system is built to be handled totally remotely. The time it takes a human to respond results in dead people.
- robomartin 14y agoI just gave two use cases and you chose to generalize from there. MOCO rigs have been used in just about every application you could possibly imagine. I once worked on a system that got dropped of a cliff on cables, next to a stunt guy, all computer controlled.
- derda 14y agoI saw a similar safety-system at Hanover industrial fair a few months ago. So they are already being sold.