> what a fool you are. You still haven't told us whether you've been there or not. As for the Western picture of it: it comes largely from NK citizens who've

> what a fool you are. You still haven't told us whether you've been there or not. As for the Western picture of it: it comes largely from NK citizens who've escaped. Call it "propaganda" if you like, but if it were false then there would be a net inflow of people who are as hip to reality as you think you are. Is there? South Koreans would be trying to move IN if you were correct; after all, they're closer than anyone and they speak the language.