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> My question for you is: why don't you vote in your interests? Not the person you asked, but I can respond for myself. I honestly, truly believe that limitin

> My question for you is: why don't you vote in your interests? Not the person you asked, but I can respond for myself. I honestly, truly believe that limiting the size and reach of government is voting in my own self interest. I'm completely uninterested in class warfare stuff. I admire very wealthy people, I hope to be one someday. Meanwhile, increasing the size, scope and power of the federal government has nothing but negative consequences for me and my family.

jmyeet 2y ago
> I honestly, truly believe that limiting the size and reach of government is voting in my own self interest. I guess you don't like roads, bridges, courts, fire departments, GPS, the Internet, modern medicine or stable food prices then. This whole "limited government" fantasy is such a uniquely American delusion. It's crazy. It's propaganda sold to you by wealthy people who want to be able to poison your drinking water because it increases their personal wealth from $30 billion to $31 billion. It borders on libertarianism, which, if that's what you're talking about, is such an incredibly naive and ridiculous political philosophy. I am actually curious though: how exactly is big government creating "negative consequences for [you] and your family"?
- claytongulick 2y ago
  > I guess you don't like roads, bridges, That's a pretty tired old straw-man you're dragging out. Like, because I believe in limited government I somehow hate bridges. You can do better. BTW, roads etc... account for about 6% of state budget, and states provide 3/4 of the total funding [1]. > ... libertarianism .. is such an incredibly naive and ridiculous political philosophy. Why? >how exactly is big government creating "negative consequences for [you] and your family"? - Censoring social media [2] - Driving up inflation and the cost of food [3] - Poisoning my kids with junk at school lunches [4] - Bankrupting the nation with debt [5] - Permits for everything! I can't add a railing to my front porch or remove a dead tree from my yard without permits. - Ruinous taxation That's hardly an exhaustive list, just some things that come to mind. [1] https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/state-and-local-finance-initiative/state-and-local-backgrounders/highway-and-road-expenditures https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiative... [2] https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/26/zuckerberg-meta-white-house-pressure-00176399 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/26/zuckerberg-meta-whi... [3] https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/federal-spending-was-responsible-2022-spike-inflation-research-shows https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/federal-spendi... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/lunchables-school-lunch-ultraprocessed-foods/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/lunch... [5] https://www.usdebtclock.org/ https://www.usdebtclock.org/
thesuavefactor 2y ago
I'm from Europe, I pay 50% in taxes and I can assure you that even here you can get rich. I can also attest that there's nothing wrong with the government having money for universal healthcare, infrastructure, security, mitigation climate change and housing.

jmyeet 2y ago

> I honestly, truly believe that limiting the size and reach of government is voting in my own self interest. I guess you don't like roads, bridges, courts, fire departments, GPS, the Internet, modern medicine or stable food prices then. This whole "limited government" fantasy is such a uniquely American delusion. It's crazy. It's propaganda sold to you by wealthy people who want to be able to poison your drinking water because it increases their personal wealth from $30 billion to $31 billion. It borders on libertarianism, which, if that's what you're talking about, is such an incredibly naive and ridiculous political philosophy. I am actually curious though: how exactly is big government creating "negative consequences for [you] and your family"?

claytongulick 2y ago
> I guess you don't like roads, bridges, That's a pretty tired old straw-man you're dragging out. Like, because I believe in limited government I somehow hate bridges. You can do better. BTW, roads etc... account for about 6% of state budget, and states provide 3/4 of the total funding [1]. > ... libertarianism .. is such an incredibly naive and ridiculous political philosophy. Why? >how exactly is big government creating "negative consequences for [you] and your family"? - Censoring social media [2] - Driving up inflation and the cost of food [3] - Poisoning my kids with junk at school lunches [4] - Bankrupting the nation with debt [5] - Permits for everything! I can't add a railing to my front porch or remove a dead tree from my yard without permits. - Ruinous taxation That's hardly an exhaustive list, just some things that come to mind. [1] https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/state-and-local-finance-initiative/state-and-local-backgrounders/highway-and-road-expenditures https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiative... [2] https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/26/zuckerberg-meta-white-house-pressure-00176399 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/26/zuckerberg-meta-whi... [3] https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/federal-spending-was-responsible-2022-spike-inflation-research-shows https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/federal-spendi... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/lunchables-school-lunch-ultraprocessed-foods/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/lunch... [5] https://www.usdebtclock.org/ https://www.usdebtclock.org/

thesuavefactor 2y ago

I'm from Europe, I pay 50% in taxes and I can assure you that even here you can get rich. I can also attest that there's nothing wrong with the government having money for universal healthcare, infrastructure, security, mitigation climate change and housing.