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I'd like to know more about this process. But ultimately, it can only be detrimental to sealife to emit noise into the marine environment. Imagine someone set

by beachy 2y ago

I'd like to know more about this process. But ultimately, it can only be detrimental to sealife to emit noise into the marine environment. Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it (even at a low volume) all day and night, perhaps for the rest of your life. Tests might or might not show that you were stressed, but you most certainly would be. Perhaps I am biased from regular snorkelling and enjoying being immersed n a different natural world, and for sure I do have tree-hugger tendencies. But I find it extremely arrogant that our species thinks it's acceptable to inject noise pollution into an environment inhabitated by thousands of other species.

puzzydunlop 2y ago
Not to get too deep in the underwater weeds here but sound propagation underwater is not omnidirectional like how sound propagates above water. And I’m not sure how true that is either All that to say, I certainly understand the concern. But I would personally have to see evidence of harm
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  The Precautionary Principle calls for proof of safety, not proof of harm. Harm is assumed unless proven otherwise.
  - cperciva 2y ago
    I assume that the Precautionary Principle is harmful and will refuse to accept it until it has been proven safe.
toast0 2y ago
> Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it (even at a low volume) all day and night, perhaps for the rest of your life. Tests might or might not show that you were stressed, but you most certainly would be. Otoh, some people purposefully setup noise machines to improve sleep and reduce stress. Sometimes a small amount of noise is a good thing.
villmann 2y ago
"Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it", you mean like a mosque :-D
- g8oz 2y ago
  Or church bells.

by beachy 2y ago

puzzydunlop 2y ago

Not to get too deep in the underwater weeds here but sound propagation underwater is not omnidirectional like how sound propagates above water. And I’m not sure how true that is either All that to say, I certainly understand the concern. But I would personally have to see evidence of harm

HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
The Precautionary Principle calls for proof of safety, not proof of harm. Harm is assumed unless proven otherwise.
- cperciva 2y ago
  I assume that the Precautionary Principle is harmful and will refuse to accept it until it has been proven safe.

toast0 2y ago

> Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it (even at a low volume) all day and night, perhaps for the rest of your life. Tests might or might not show that you were stressed, but you most certainly would be. Otoh, some people purposefully setup noise machines to improve sleep and reduce stress. Sometimes a small amount of noise is a good thing.

villmann 2y ago

"Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it", you mean like a mosque :-D

g8oz 2y ago
Or church bells.