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>The whole Quebec movement is basically dead in the water now. Quebec's Separatist party has complete electoral dominance (except for Montreal, but Montreal is

by qball 2y ago

>The whole Quebec movement is basically dead in the water now. Quebec's Separatist party has complete electoral dominance (except for Montreal, but Montreal is the least Quebec part of Quebec) and has the ability to force the government's hand on most things. If the Eastern Big City Party loses the next election as is projected (and the Bloc correspondingly loses all of its power) they'll be back.

alephnerd 2y ago
PQ has largely transitioned away from soverignity and largely campaigns on culture war issues like Bill 21 and immigration. Only voters who are 65+ are split on soverignity. Every other age demographic overwhelmingly supports remaining in Canada [0] This can be seen with the CAQ, which has poached most of the PQ's leadership and campaigns almost entirely on Bill 21 and immigration [1], not on "Quebec Libre" [0] - https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/17/quebec-francois-legault-referendum-00040228 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/17/quebec-francois-leg... [1] - https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bill-21-groups-for-and-against-quebec-secularism-law-react-to-ruling https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bill-21-groups-f...
- philistine 2y ago
  Are you completely out of the loop that much? The PQ is first in the polls, and has promised a referendum within a first mandate. It's a whole fucking big deal that they managed to lead in polls right now while promising that.
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    Polling does prove that it's driven by immigration and culture war concerns, not Sovereignty [0] [0] - https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/mai-2024/sondage-souverainete-parti-quebecois/ https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/mai-2024/sondage...
    - philistine 2y ago
      > PQ has largely transitioned away from soverignity[sic] and largely campaigns on culture war issues like Bill 21 and immigration. Your initial point was not that people chose the PQ over language concerns, but that the party had transitioned. The party has done no such thing. It's doubling down on separatism if anything. It's crazy.

by qball 2y ago

alephnerd 2y ago

PQ has largely transitioned away from soverignity and largely campaigns on culture war issues like Bill 21 and immigration. Only voters who are 65+ are split on soverignity. Every other age demographic overwhelmingly supports remaining in Canada [0] This can be seen with the CAQ, which has poached most of the PQ's leadership and campaigns almost entirely on Bill 21 and immigration [1], not on "Quebec Libre" [0] - https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/17/quebec-francois-legault-referendum-00040228 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/17/quebec-francois-leg... [1] - https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bill-21-groups-for-and-against-quebec-secularism-law-react-to-ruling https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bill-21-groups-f...

philistine 2y ago
Are you completely out of the loop that much? The PQ is first in the polls, and has promised a referendum within a first mandate. It's a whole fucking big deal that they managed to lead in polls right now while promising that.
- alephnerd 2y ago
  Polling does prove that it's driven by immigration and culture war concerns, not Sovereignty [0] [0] - https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/mai-2024/sondage-souverainete-parti-quebecois/ https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/mai-2024/sondage...
  - philistine 2y ago
    > PQ has largely transitioned away from soverignity[sic] and largely campaigns on culture war issues like Bill 21 and immigration. Your initial point was not that people chose the PQ over language concerns, but that the party had transitioned. The party has done no such thing. It's doubling down on separatism if anything. It's crazy.