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Interesting that in one of the cited studies the authors are not afraid to claim that viral infections may cause autoimmune diseases, despite the fact that the
by bhk 2y ago
Interesting that in one of the cited studies the authors are not afraid to claim that viral infections may cause autoimmune diseases, despite the fact that the potential mechanisms they list could also apply to vaccines.
"Current research suggests that several mechanisms, such as molecular mimicry, epitope spreading, and bystander activation, can cause viral-induced autoimmunity."
- giantg2 2y agoAutoimmune responses are well known with some vaccines and some conditions, such as GBS. Most real experts know that vaccines carry all sorts of risks. It's the general public that is mostly unaware and would find this sort of thing surprising. It's the whole "safe" vs "generally safe" thing.
- krackers 2y ago>Most real experts know that vaccines carry all sorts of risks And that's why all the real experts made sure to properly communicate the risks vs benefits of the Covid vaccine in an age, sex, and dose-stratified fashion, right? Oh wait...
- randomdata 2y agoThe real experts in the fields I know well don't tend to spend much time communicating with others about their expertise, especially to the layman. Why would the real experts in this particular field be any different?
- XMPPwocky 2y agoExperts in any field are generally not the ones communicating with, and making recommendations to, the public.
- pjc50 2y agoThe high level of insanity of public debate made people shut up. I know at least one immunologist who quit Twitter fairly early on in the pandemic because of it. Doing health communication has hazards of its own.
- nielsbot 2y agoWhat is GBS? And the vaccine for it causes autoimmune responses? Can I read more?
- giantg2 2y agoGBS is the autoimmune response to many vaccines. In a lot of ways, it's similar to having a stroke in as far as people have to relearn how to do many things, sometimes down to relearning how to walk.
- projektfu 2y agoWhy would they be afraid? These are well-worn paths of research. I doubt anyone would be censored for referring to the vaccine-related injuries in 1976 and the proposed pathogenesis mechanisms, including molecular mimicry.
- pazimzadeh 2y agoWhen a virus replicates inside your cells, it sets off alarms that as a result of sensing of viral nucleic acid signatures in your cells (i.e. MAVS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_antiviral-signaling_protein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_antiviral-signal...). A vaccine, unless it is a live attenuated vaccine (these are rare) does not set off the same alarms since you don't actually get viral nucleic acids in your cells.