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My problem with paper is that I can't keep up with paper. I will lose it several times a day, and inevitably, I will lose it permanently after a year or two. I
by jjeaff 2y ago
My problem with paper is that I can't keep up with paper. I will lose it several times a day, and inevitably, I will lose it permanently after a year or two. I need the sync and findability that an app on a device affords.
- trzy 2y agoIf your project TODO lists are stretching into years, it's time to get a better project management system. I recommend paper.
- paulddraper 2y ago> I will lose it several times a day This is me. Skill issue notwithstanding.
- lpapez 2y agoAbsolutely. If an item has been on your TODO list for years, it's most likely not worth doing anyway. Might as well lose the paper upon which the item is written.
- happytoexplain 2y agoThis is unrealistic. If I didn't accept TODO items older than a year, or even five years, I never would have built my fence, fixed my stairs, set up my home lab, learned iOS development, digitized my family's old photos/videos, or innumerable other things, because for each of those things, I had 10 to 100 more mundane but more time-sensitive/higher-priority things to do. You can manage long-term lists without losing items to the abyss by using prioritization techniques.
- stronglikedan 2y agoI'm pretty sure you're conflating two different types of todo lists - long term and short term. Paper is great for short term.
- 015a 2y agoI feel that you're being unrealistic, not the parent poster: Turning every aspect of your life into a jira ticket straight up isn't healthy (I'm using "jira" here as a stand-in for "any process management system, digital or physical"). I don't feel that writing yourself a reminder to "fix stairs" is normal or a desirable process. At best: This feels similar to a CEO writing a jira ticket to "make website faster"; you've brought an unactionable outcome into process management, rather than the specific actionable steps (e.g. a shopping list).
- chaffroomba 2y agoI feel fixing stairs would be very actionable though, and something that I'd not remember other than when it almost fails under load or fails entirely. I personally don't need a reminder to go off for a thing I need to do today or tomorrow, but something happening next week or next month that I need to check up on or arrange. Those tend to be the kind of expensive and really annoying thing to fix after neglecting
- wwweston 2y ago15 years ago while resisting the smartphone shift I got myself a passport case to use as a combined wallet and portable notebook to write things down in. It worked reasonably well and certainly had some robust advantages but honestly so do cross-device syncd apps that I've used since smartphone adoption.
- cholantesh 2y agoI hate those cases, but yes, synced todos (including grocery lists!) have been the killer app for smartphone use for me. Still, once I got my S20 this year I stopped doing it as much because the thing is too damn huge to be worth it. I've gone back to using a moleskine and it's fine, but just one more thing to carry around.
- thih9 2y agoIf it was important, you wouldn’t lose it. It’s a feature; sort of a garbage collection.
- viraptor 2y agoAssuming that judgement is in any way involved in situations like that is a mistake. At the very least for ADHD-i people like me.
- thih9 2y agoI meant that instead of hoarding ideas it can be fine to let go of unimportant ones. And sure, if you feel like you forget or cannot distinguish between important things for any reason then a different method is fine too.
- jjeaff 2y agoYou've never lost your wallet or your keys?
- thih9 2y agoNot frequently enough to stop using them.
- stocknoob 2y agoTape an AirTag to your paper notebook.
- barbazoo 2y ago> but for todo lists, all of the above are way too complicated. I think their point was specific to to-do lists which usually aren't around for that long and in my experience rarely need to be searched.