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The US is in desperate need of a labor movement. The Democrats dance with the UAW and are deeply tied to the AFT/NEA, but most labor unions in the US are gettin

The US is in desperate need of a labor movement. The Democrats dance with the UAW and are deeply tied to the AFT/NEA, but most labor unions in the US are getting the crap beat out of them and both parties turn a blind eye. It's good that more unions are speaking with/to Republicans, but what is really needed is a dedicated workers' party.

oldpersonintx 2y ago
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gosub100 2y ago
I know this is a naive question, but I don't know why it's so difficult to start a union in the age of online communities. For instance there are dedicated forums and subreddits for e.g. Uber eats and Amazon delivery and Walmart and all the grueling, exploitative jobs. They all have a common thread and viewpoint, why isn't it trivial for them to organize online, pick a date, and one day all "come out" formally as union employees?
- barbazoo 2y ago
  Have a look at the process for unionization: https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/what-we-do/conduct-elections https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/what-we-do/conduct-elections. For instance it's per workplace and there's a threshold of how much support among the workers you need, etc. It's not just something you join and then you're in a union.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
  > They all have a common thread and viewpoint, why isn't it trivial for them to organize online, pick a date, and one day all "come out" formally as union employees? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting If you were to organize a union, how would you increase membership while ensuring that management doesn't know that you're organizing a union? You mention online forums and similar but how do you let people know about the forum for the sake of organizing while keeping management out of the loop for the sake of secrecy?
  - gosub100 2y ago
    They can know about it, because posting online is effectively anonymous (for that purpose). That's what I meant about "coming out", they could organize anonymously and all agree "if you go, I'll go" and one day they shed the anonymity in unison.

oldpersonintx 2y ago

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gosub100 2y ago

I know this is a naive question, but I don't know why it's so difficult to start a union in the age of online communities. For instance there are dedicated forums and subreddits for e.g. Uber eats and Amazon delivery and Walmart and all the grueling, exploitative jobs. They all have a common thread and viewpoint, why isn't it trivial for them to organize online, pick a date, and one day all "come out" formally as union employees?

barbazoo 2y ago
Have a look at the process for unionization: https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/what-we-do/conduct-elections https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/what-we-do/conduct-elections. For instance it's per workplace and there's a threshold of how much support among the workers you need, etc. It's not just something you join and then you're in a union.
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
> They all have a common thread and viewpoint, why isn't it trivial for them to organize online, pick a date, and one day all "come out" formally as union employees? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_busting If you were to organize a union, how would you increase membership while ensuring that management doesn't know that you're organizing a union? You mention online forums and similar but how do you let people know about the forum for the sake of organizing while keeping management out of the loop for the sake of secrecy?
- gosub100 2y ago
  They can know about it, because posting online is effectively anonymous (for that purpose). That's what I meant about "coming out", they could organize anonymously and all agree "if you go, I'll go" and one day they shed the anonymity in unison.