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What a weird site, can't seem to scroll it? It wants to install some weird app?

r721 2y ago
It's quite well-known independent Russian media (Latvia-based): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IStories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IStories
- gerikson 2y ago
  Thanks for expanding on the site's origins. Using reader mode enables me to read it.
- protomolecule 2y ago
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  - r721 2y ago
    Do you prefer to read state-owned media or what?
    - acdha 2y ago
      This is an uncharitable take. It’s reasonable to want to know who owns the news you read so you can take that into account while assessing their claims. That will affect who they hire just as it would for state media, and it’s often harder to find details than it would be with public ownership.
      - r721 2y ago
        Well, in the Russian context "independent media" usually means "non-state-aligned", that's why I asked. As for ownership I already provided link to Wikipedia which says "IStories is a non-profit organisation. It is operated by a board of directors. The organisation modelled on ProPublica, a non-profit investigative journalism organisation." and I don't know anything further than that.
        protomolecule 2y ago
        >Well, in the Russian context "independent media" usually means "non-state-aligned" Is it? "Nevertheless, the Pentagon’s clandestine propaganda efforts are set to continue. In an unclassified strategy document last year, top Pentagon generals wrote that the U.S. military could undermine adversaries such as China and Russia using “disinformation spread across social media, false narratives disguised as news, and similar subversive activities [to] weaken societal trust by undermining the foundations of government.”" [0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covi...
        acdha 2y ago
        My point was simply that it seemed like a hostile response to a reasonable question. It’s healthy to ask how an unfamiliar site is funded since that’s going to influence the topics they cover and how they approach them.
        r721 2y ago
        The thing is I have seen protomolecule's previous comments in Russia-related discussions, and interpreted these as bad faith questions.
        protomolecule 2y ago
        Hardly a good reason to ask dumb question in return.
        acdha 2y ago
        Sure, but if you think someone is acting in bad faith you should answer the question in a way designed to help readers who lack that context. For example, knowing that the Russian government has taken legal action against them would be helpful when judging whether they are likely to be skewed in ways favorable to the Russian government.
    - protomolecule 2y ago
      I want to know if it is state-owned too and by which state.

r721 2y ago

It's quite well-known independent Russian media (Latvia-based): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IStories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IStories

gerikson 2y ago
Thanks for expanding on the site's origins. Using reader mode enables me to read it.
protomolecule 2y ago
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- r721 2y ago
  Do you prefer to read state-owned media or what?
  - acdha 2y ago
    This is an uncharitable take. It’s reasonable to want to know who owns the news you read so you can take that into account while assessing their claims. That will affect who they hire just as it would for state media, and it’s often harder to find details than it would be with public ownership.
    - r721 2y ago
      Well, in the Russian context "independent media" usually means "non-state-aligned", that's why I asked. As for ownership I already provided link to Wikipedia which says "IStories is a non-profit organisation. It is operated by a board of directors. The organisation modelled on ProPublica, a non-profit investigative journalism organisation." and I don't know anything further than that.
      - protomolecule 2y ago
        >Well, in the Russian context "independent media" usually means "non-state-aligned" Is it? "Nevertheless, the Pentagon’s clandestine propaganda efforts are set to continue. In an unclassified strategy document last year, top Pentagon generals wrote that the U.S. military could undermine adversaries such as China and Russia using “disinformation spread across social media, false narratives disguised as news, and similar subversive activities [to] weaken societal trust by undermining the foundations of government.”" [0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covi...
      - acdha 2y ago
        My point was simply that it seemed like a hostile response to a reasonable question. It’s healthy to ask how an unfamiliar site is funded since that’s going to influence the topics they cover and how they approach them.
        r721 2y ago
        The thing is I have seen protomolecule's previous comments in Russia-related discussions, and interpreted these as bad faith questions.
        protomolecule 2y ago
        Hardly a good reason to ask dumb question in return.
        acdha 2y ago
        Sure, but if you think someone is acting in bad faith you should answer the question in a way designed to help readers who lack that context. For example, knowing that the Russian government has taken legal action against them would be helpful when judging whether they are likely to be skewed in ways favorable to the Russian government.
  - protomolecule 2y ago
    I want to know if it is state-owned too and by which state.