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That quite the conspiracy theory.

by pydry 2y ago

zweifuss 2y ago
Sergei Tretyakov made such claims. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligence_officer) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligen... Stasi and green activist contacts are also documented. (Most funding came from fossile fuel orgs/persons, not eastern block.) https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-greens/a-36024911 https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-...
- pydry 2y ago
  >Sergei Tretyakov made such claims. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligen... I didn't see anything in that in that wikipedia article about it. Besides, the claims of defectors are frequently exaggerated and fall apart. They have a strong tendency to try to say what they think their audience want to hear. >Stasi and green activist contacts are also documented. (Most funding came from fossile fuel orgs/persons, not eastern block.) https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated- https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-... This article is 0% about the conspiracy theory and 100% about how the stasi tried to infiltrate a political party - which is, yes, quite plausible. As I said, it's quite the conspiracy theory.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    The Stasi infiltrated and tried to influence every organization they could get half a toehold in, in both the BRD/DDR. That doesn't mean they favored (or otherwise sought to promote) all of the aims and goals of the organizations. Or even any of their aims, necessary. Their primary goal in doing so was, first and foremost, that of their very motto: To know everything
LorenPechtel 2y ago
Doesn't need to be a big conspiracy. Find groups that are saying what you want said, help them along. Simple test. Look for issues which aren't really green but which benefit Moscow (and these days, Beijing.) Where do the "green" groups stand? I haven't been paying attention for quite a while because I spotted too many such things long ago and figured Moscow was pulling the strings.

That quite the conspiracy theory.

by pydry 2y ago

That quite the conspiracy theory.

Sergei Tretyakov made such claims. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligence_officer) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligen... Stasi and green activist contacts are also documented. (Most funding came from fossile fuel orgs/persons, not eastern block.) https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-greens/a-36024911 https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-...

pydry 2y ago
>Sergei Tretyakov made such claims. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Tretyakov_(intelligen... I didn't see anything in that in that wikipedia article about it. Besides, the claims of defectors are frequently exaggerated and fall apart. They have a strong tendency to try to say what they think their audience want to hear. >Stasi and green activist contacts are also documented. (Most funding came from fossile fuel orgs/persons, not eastern block.) https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated- https://www.dw.com/en/study-confirms-that-stasi-infiltrated-... This article is 0% about the conspiracy theory and 100% about how the stasi tried to infiltrate a political party - which is, yes, quite plausible. As I said, it's quite the conspiracy theory.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  The Stasi infiltrated and tried to influence every organization they could get half a toehold in, in both the BRD/DDR. That doesn't mean they favored (or otherwise sought to promote) all of the aims and goals of the organizations. Or even any of their aims, necessary. Their primary goal in doing so was, first and foremost, that of their very motto: To know everything

LorenPechtel 2y ago

Doesn't need to be a big conspiracy. Find groups that are saying what you want said, help them along. Simple test. Look for issues which aren't really green but which benefit Moscow (and these days, Beijing.) Where do the "green" groups stand? I haven't been paying attention for quite a while because I spotted too many such things long ago and figured Moscow was pulling the strings.