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The overall gender imbalance in American higher education is now just as bad as when Title IX was first implemented, only in the opposite direction. What's int
by klipt 2y ago
The overall gender imbalance in American higher education is now just as bad as when Title IX was first implemented, only in the opposite direction.
What's interesting is this is deliberately excluded from many metrics of gender inequality, eg the UN defines inequality as "fewer women in college than men" so even 100% women and 0% men would be graded as "more equal" than 51% men and 49% women. Pretty Orwellian.
- riffic 2y ago[flagged]
- nsxwolf 2y agoWould this question ever have worked the other way?
- klipt 2y agoHave humans fundamentally changed since 50 years ago? Was there something fundamentally wrong with women 50 years ago that we "fixed"?
- riffic 2y agosocietal roles and expectations have certainly changed.
- BenFranklin100 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoNo personal attacks, please. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- klipt 2y agoIf societal roles and expectations make one gender less successful, is that something wrong with "men"/"women" or rather something wrong with the roles and expectations?
- Jensson 2y ago> Was there something fundamentally wrong with women 50 years ago that we "fixed"? Women used to be pregnant or with a lot of small kids for most of their early adulthood, that changed about 50 years ago with hormonal contraceptives. Edit: I wouldn't say that either way is wrong here, but hormonal contraceptives and hormonal medicines in general is certainly a very fundamental change to a human.
- rowanG077 2y agoYou are implying there is. What is wrong with men today according to you?
- zer8k 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into gender flamewar hell (or any flamewar hell). It's just what we're trying to avoid here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- me_me_me 2y agothat pretty misadrenistic thing to say let have a look and reverse genders in your example. >>> Why are majority students men not women >> perhaps there's something fundamentally wrong with women today? I'd look there. hmmm....
- dang 2y agoPlease don't take HN threads into gender flamewar hell (or any flamewar hell). It's just what we're trying to avoid here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- duggan 2y ago> eg the UN defines inequality as "fewer women in college than men" Do you have a reference for that definition? I can't find it.
- klipt 2y agoSorry the one I'm thinking of is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gender_Gap_Report#Criticisms_and_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gender_Gap_Report#Criti... I misremembered World Economic Forum as a part of the UN but it's a separate agency. But many reports have that bias. For example a report on gender inequality in European Union makes no mention of multiple EU countries conscripting only men.
- tdb7893 2y agoWomen in a lot of places are barred by legal or cultural methods from going into higher education in a way that men just aren't. Especially in the US less men go to college but they definitely aren't barred from it in the same way. This isn't to say that specific interventions targeting young men aren't important, just that it's not really the same concern at all.
- rangerelf 2y agoI'm sure you can produce a link to that Orwellian metric's definition somewhere, right?
- klipt 2y agoSorry the one I'm thinking of is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gender_Gap_Report#Criticisms_and_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Gender_Gap_Report#Criti... I misremembered World Economic Forum as a part of the UN but it's a separate agency. But many reports have that bias. For example a report on gender inequality in European Union makes no mention of multiple EU countries conscripting only men.
- alfiopuglisi 2y agoLook for the Global Gender Gap Report of the World Economic Forum, it uses exactly that metric.