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> And from an engineering perspective Chornobyl isn't that interesting as an accident example because it's mostly a product of brainwashed egotic manager who ha
by lesuorac 2y ago
> And from an engineering perspective Chornobyl isn't that interesting as an accident example because it's mostly a product of brainwashed egotic manager who had all the power over the engineers.
Pretty sure it's actually extremely interesting.
The test was considered such a non-risk that it required next to no oversight [1] [2]. If something that doesn't require oversight results in a nuclear disaster then something is wildly wrong with your regulations and design.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Safety_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Safety_test
[2]: https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub913e_web.pdf https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub913e_web.p...
- littlestymaar 2y ago> Pretty sure it's actually extremely interesting. You missed the from an engineering perspective part at the begining of this sentence.
- lesuorac 2y agoIf it's not interesting from an engineering perspective then why did the nuclear community write a post-accident report [1] and then update it 7 years later [2]? Perhaps _now_ it's less interesting as the faulty design has been studied at least twice with computer simulations (and a lot more skepticism on the initial Russian presentation which blamed the operators). [1]:https://www.iaea.org/publications/3598/summary-report-on-the-post-accident-review-meeting-on-the-chernobyl-accident https://www.iaea.org/publications/3598/summary-report-on-the... [2]: https://www.iaea.org/publications/3786/the-chernobyl-accident-updating-of-insag-1 https://www.iaea.org/publications/3786/the-chernobyl-acciden...
- littlestymaar 2y agoBecause nuclear is not just about engineering? TMI also wasn't mainly an engineering problem: it was the way the incident reaction guidelines where written and how crisis group was set up that was the largest cause, and as such there has been little engineering changes following TMI but a lot of organizational changes.
- honestjohn 2y agoThe human element is just as much part of the engineering and design. The plants are designed for humans to operate.
- littlestymaar 2y agoIt's part of design, not part of engineering. The same way the UX of a website is not engineering.
- poorlyknit 2y agoLike it or not, team dynamics are a part of engineering.
- littlestymaar 2y agoThen everything under the sun is part of engineering too, and now the word has lost any meaning.