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minor pedantry: 50 years ago was the mid 1970s, and there was a not insignificant amount of concern about gender and sexuality back then (especially in my colle

minor pedantry: 50 years ago was the mid 1970s, and there was a not insignificant amount of concern about gender and sexuality back then (especially in my college town). 50 years before that would be the 1920s, and although I wasn't around then, I believe the suffragettes in those days (would we guess Mary Olive Byrne to have been one?) had had their concerns as well. Lagniappe: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eine_Frau_ohne_Mann_ist_wie_ein_Fisch_ohne_Fahrrad#/media/Datei:Fish_on_a_Bicycle_01.jpg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eine_Frau_ohne_Mann_ist_wie_ei...

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
Yes I hope in 50 years we have freedom of gender. If not I guess I'll keep talking about it
- ben_w 2y ago
  Transplants were possible more than 50 years ago, but the few that were technically possible were still a bad idea. 50 years from now? My guess is that gender reassignment surgery will become so easy, so reversible, as to be as uncontroversial as a tattoo is today. The controversy will shift to people getting very upset about furries who want living tails and full-body skin replacements for that glossy winter coat…
  - Bluestein 2y ago
    > The controversy will shift to people getting very upset about furries who want living tails and full-body skin replacements for that glossy winter coat… I am not sure cosmetic medical science will ever reach that far ...
    - nine_k 2y ago
      Genetic engineering may. Human skin can produce hair, it only needs to grow longer, and maybe include certain pigments. (The result would likely look more like Chewbacca than like a cute anime character though.)
      - BobaFloutist 2y ago
        The difference between Chewbacca and a cute anime character has more to do with a visit to the salon than any underlying body architecture.
        nine_k 2y ago
        True, but eye size and the shape of the jaw are harder to alter in a salon. (In 50 years though, who knows!)
        ben_w 2y ago
        FWIW, for furries there is a whole spectrum of different options on the realism vs. cartoony axis, so eye size may not be part of it. OTOH, overall skull shape is much harder than just putting on a muzzle, as the phenotypes of the corresponding common real species often have eyes much closer to the top of their skulls than we do. And those eyes have a different spacing than ours. Basically there's a lot to consider if you want to aim for "realistic".
    - ben_w 2y ago
      Most of my uncertainty is about licensing the process for humans, see for example discussion about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat All necessary steps regarding the bio-hacking itself (not safety and by extension also not licensing) will probably be demonstrated within a decade, perhaps by a group I'm currently following on YouTube: https://www.thethoughtemporium.com/ https://www.thethoughtemporium.com/
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  I hope we have freedom of race too. Rachel Dolezal was wronged by everyone, even so called liberal people.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

Yes I hope in 50 years we have freedom of gender. If not I guess I'll keep talking about it

ben_w 2y ago
Transplants were possible more than 50 years ago, but the few that were technically possible were still a bad idea. 50 years from now? My guess is that gender reassignment surgery will become so easy, so reversible, as to be as uncontroversial as a tattoo is today. The controversy will shift to people getting very upset about furries who want living tails and full-body skin replacements for that glossy winter coat…
- Bluestein 2y ago
  > The controversy will shift to people getting very upset about furries who want living tails and full-body skin replacements for that glossy winter coat… I am not sure cosmetic medical science will ever reach that far ...
  - nine_k 2y ago
    Genetic engineering may. Human skin can produce hair, it only needs to grow longer, and maybe include certain pigments. (The result would likely look more like Chewbacca than like a cute anime character though.)
    - BobaFloutist 2y ago
      The difference between Chewbacca and a cute anime character has more to do with a visit to the salon than any underlying body architecture.
      - nine_k 2y ago
        True, but eye size and the shape of the jaw are harder to alter in a salon. (In 50 years though, who knows!)
        ben_w 2y ago
        FWIW, for furries there is a whole spectrum of different options on the realism vs. cartoony axis, so eye size may not be part of it. OTOH, overall skull shape is much harder than just putting on a muzzle, as the phenotypes of the corresponding common real species often have eyes much closer to the top of their skulls than we do. And those eyes have a different spacing than ours. Basically there's a lot to consider if you want to aim for "realistic".
  - ben_w 2y ago
    Most of my uncertainty is about licensing the process for humans, see for example discussion about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat All necessary steps regarding the bio-hacking itself (not safety and by extension also not licensing) will probably be demonstrated within a decade, perhaps by a group I'm currently following on YouTube: https://www.thethoughtemporium.com/ https://www.thethoughtemporium.com/
IncreasePosts 2y ago
I hope we have freedom of race too. Rachel Dolezal was wronged by everyone, even so called liberal people.