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Suggestion: perhaps call it Vanilla++? With the list of tools many (including me) would argue that it's not really 'vanilla js', but rather 'frameworkless npm'.

Suggestion: perhaps call it Vanilla++? With the list of tools many (including me) would argue that it's not really 'vanilla js', but rather 'frameworkless npm'. In my very humble opinion, vanilla js is esmodules, html, fetch and good old plain css. Basically a no-node environment, static hosting and no transpilation.

morrvs 2y ago
I was pondering if "vanilla" should be part of the name as well. In the end I felt I got sufficiently close to the vanilla flavor you describe, and the name conveys the "as little as possible" approach. Hope it's not too misleading! I do like the "plus" idea, now that you mention it! Will think about it :)
- Bjartr 2y ago
  Maybe vanillin, the essence of vanilla, but not quite the same thing?
- Izkata 2y ago
  Vanilla JS has also been a long-time joke about how modern javascript has advanced far enough not to need libraries for a lot of stuff people still reach for: http://vanilla-js.com/ http://vanilla-js.com/ Goes back to 2012 unchanged (hence the selection of libraries compared against): https://web.archive.org/web/20120825232614/http://vanilla-js.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20120825232614/http://vanilla-js... Edit to add: Having been around in that era, I see "Vanilla Prime" as a whole new framework, nothing vanilla about it.
- meiraleal 2y ago
  Honestly, I think it is totally misleading. As misleading as calling cloud services serverless. Vanilla JS already have a well-established meaning
gorjusborg 2y ago
In mathematics, if f is a function, f' (pronounced eff prime) is a modified/different but related function. I think the name already acknowledges it isn't quite vanilla.
- morrvs 2y ago
  Now that's a cool accident... thanks for sharing :)
- ofrzeta 2y ago
  Usually f'(x) denotes the differential of f(x), doesn't it?
  - gorjusborg 2y ago
    Prime doesn't necessarily need to denote anything specific, but often means 'different, but related'. It is common to use prime notation to reflect a derivative function in calculus, but like most things it depends on context.
    - mhuffman 2y ago
      It was Lagrange's notation, I believe. As opposed to Leibniz's notation which is the dy/dx notation that is all the rage now.

morrvs 2y ago

I was pondering if "vanilla" should be part of the name as well. In the end I felt I got sufficiently close to the vanilla flavor you describe, and the name conveys the "as little as possible" approach. Hope it's not too misleading! I do like the "plus" idea, now that you mention it! Will think about it :)

Bjartr 2y ago
Maybe vanillin, the essence of vanilla, but not quite the same thing?
Izkata 2y ago
Vanilla JS has also been a long-time joke about how modern javascript has advanced far enough not to need libraries for a lot of stuff people still reach for: http://vanilla-js.com/ http://vanilla-js.com/ Goes back to 2012 unchanged (hence the selection of libraries compared against): https://web.archive.org/web/20120825232614/http://vanilla-js.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20120825232614/http://vanilla-js... Edit to add: Having been around in that era, I see "Vanilla Prime" as a whole new framework, nothing vanilla about it.
meiraleal 2y ago
Honestly, I think it is totally misleading. As misleading as calling cloud services serverless. Vanilla JS already have a well-established meaning

gorjusborg 2y ago

In mathematics, if f is a function, f' (pronounced eff prime) is a modified/different but related function. I think the name already acknowledges it isn't quite vanilla.

morrvs 2y ago
Now that's a cool accident... thanks for sharing :)
ofrzeta 2y ago
Usually f'(x) denotes the differential of f(x), doesn't it?
- gorjusborg 2y ago
  Prime doesn't necessarily need to denote anything specific, but often means 'different, but related'. It is common to use prime notation to reflect a derivative function in calculus, but like most things it depends on context.
  - mhuffman 2y ago
    It was Lagrange's notation, I believe. As opposed to Leibniz's notation which is the dy/dx notation that is all the rage now.