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> The days where a cop, judge or prosecutor identified as the function they render to society are over, I suspect. It’s work life balance all the way. This is

> The days where a cop, judge or prosecutor identified as the function they render to society are over, I suspect. It’s work life balance all the way. This is terrifying and also true in many other industries, including software.

jayofdoom 2y ago
I'm really confused as to why it's bad we identify people by their preferences and the content of their character instead of by the role they play in our capitalist economy.
- blargey 2y ago
  People not giving a shit about their jobs means their jobs don’t get done well - if at all. We’re quite dependent on the fastidiousness and conscientiousness of our peers, at least if you want life to be pleasant. People don’t have the ability to contractually enforce and codify good work ethic (see: people just trying to define SLOs for machines). Especially with “public servant” type jobs which the comment was referring to.
  - tbrownaw 2y ago
    Seems like a bit of a stretch to go from "has a life outside their job" to "doesn't give a shit about their job".
devjab 2y ago
I worked a decade in the public sector in Denmark and I think it’s sort of natural when MBAs enter and flood the work with pseudo work. A nurse went from maybe filling out paperwork a few hours a week to two full days a week. What was “fun” about that is that I worked on the data, and I may have been the only one to ever come hear 99% or it as it was only ever audited after someone did something bad. They didn’t even use the data for anything analytical because it tended to show just how bad their budget cuts were hurting the area and that the best way to improve quality was through more resources and less administration. Add to this that most public servants make very little money and that nobody in the chain of command actually listens to the people on the floor… Well why would they care?

jayofdoom 2y ago

I'm really confused as to why it's bad we identify people by their preferences and the content of their character instead of by the role they play in our capitalist economy.

blargey 2y ago
People not giving a shit about their jobs means their jobs don’t get done well - if at all. We’re quite dependent on the fastidiousness and conscientiousness of our peers, at least if you want life to be pleasant. People don’t have the ability to contractually enforce and codify good work ethic (see: people just trying to define SLOs for machines). Especially with “public servant” type jobs which the comment was referring to.
- tbrownaw 2y ago
  Seems like a bit of a stretch to go from "has a life outside their job" to "doesn't give a shit about their job".

devjab 2y ago

I worked a decade in the public sector in Denmark and I think it’s sort of natural when MBAs enter and flood the work with pseudo work. A nurse went from maybe filling out paperwork a few hours a week to two full days a week. What was “fun” about that is that I worked on the data, and I may have been the only one to ever come hear 99% or it as it was only ever audited after someone did something bad. They didn’t even use the data for anything analytical because it tended to show just how bad their budget cuts were hurting the area and that the best way to improve quality was through more resources and less administration. Add to this that most public servants make very little money and that nobody in the chain of command actually listens to the people on the floor… Well why would they care?