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Thought of a better example: The Underdark. Stumbling into the Underdark by accident is an amazing feeling, because it's obviously an important location from a

Thought of a better example: The Underdark. Stumbling into the Underdark by accident is an amazing feeling, because it's obviously an important location from a quest that you don't have yet! Exposition and intrigue, how fun! I can't imagine a way to do this nicely with generative AI. If I thoroughly explore the king's palace before sending in my farmer-come-assassin friend, how will it know that the gallows are to be an important location later?

bee_rider 2y ago
Maybe while humans are designing the map, we could flag some interesting landmarks, and then if the NPCs engage with them somehow, info about them could be built into their prompts. Maybe Skyrim was a bad example because it is too designed. But like, Minecraft barely has a plot, and it was really popular. Maybe we can add, like, a couple good characters to open world survival crafting games. We don’t have to skip straight to simulating whole cities.
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chrisnolet 2y ago
So firstly, I think there’s a sliding scale here, between structured narrative and hands-off emergent storytelling. If we assume something in the middle: While we might not be able to predict that you’ll encourage the farmer to (try to) overthrow the king, we might predict that you’ll try something of that sort. Maybe you enlist a guard for an inside job, or perhaps you do it yourself! But if we want to plan for it, we can plant the seeds, and then nudge the GPT to weave the threads of our story together when it happens. Interestingly, because GPT requires so little prompting for relatively intricate story lines, (yes, really), you can probably add an ungodly number of these semi-scripted moments. I think they would be absolutely magical. I think all of that would add up to a world that feels alive, with deep world building and many ‘surprising but inevitable’ moments – and the potential for some great emergent storytelling along the way. I’m very excited for it!

bee_rider 2y ago

Maybe while humans are designing the map, we could flag some interesting landmarks, and then if the NPCs engage with them somehow, info about them could be built into their prompts. Maybe Skyrim was a bad example because it is too designed. But like, Minecraft barely has a plot, and it was really popular. Maybe we can add, like, a couple good characters to open world survival crafting games. We don’t have to skip straight to simulating whole cities.

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chrisnolet 2y ago

So firstly, I think there’s a sliding scale here, between structured narrative and hands-off emergent storytelling. If we assume something in the middle: While we might not be able to predict that you’ll encourage the farmer to (try to) overthrow the king, we might predict that you’ll try something of that sort. Maybe you enlist a guard for an inside job, or perhaps you do it yourself! But if we want to plan for it, we can plant the seeds, and then nudge the GPT to weave the threads of our story together when it happens. Interestingly, because GPT requires so little prompting for relatively intricate story lines, (yes, really), you can probably add an ungodly number of these semi-scripted moments. I think they would be absolutely magical. I think all of that would add up to a world that feels alive, with deep world building and many ‘surprising but inevitable’ moments – and the potential for some great emergent storytelling along the way. I’m very excited for it!