> ...within 1-2 clicks That's the problem. Toolbar buttons ought to be ONE-click shortcuts. Menus are multi-click. My frustration stemmed primarily from hav

> ...within 1-2 clicks That's the problem. Toolbar buttons ought to be ONE-click shortcuts. Menus are multi-click. My frustration stemmed primarily from having to constantly bounce back and forth between toolbar tabs to get certain tasks done (it's been a while so I can't remember the exact use cases, maybe formatting table borders and fonts/bold/etc). In those cases it legit doubled my clicks. The ribbon essentially took my menus, and made them waste vast amounts of precious vertical screen real estate - not to mention less consistency in presentation & discoverability (particularly when other software I wasn't as familiar with began to copy the trend). If I recall, older versions also did a better job of surfacing keyboard shortcuts (via tooltips), so you would inherently learn the ones you used most as you used the software.