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Drugs are sold on every platform, including Instagram. The other parts are just as likely to end up on Facebook as they are Telegram too, there really is no poi

Drugs are sold on every platform, including Instagram. The other parts are just as likely to end up on Facebook as they are Telegram too, there really is no point in trying to make this sound like the USA-based platforms aren't utterly rife with the things you mentioned too. The only difference here is that Telegram isn't USA-owned and doesn't need to bow down to the USA Govt.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> only difference here is that Telegram isn't USA-owned and doesn't need to bow down to the USA Govt The U.S. government doesn't like encrypted communications. But it's legally bound, by our Constitution and courts, in a way Paris is not. Nobody has been fussing about Telegram in a serious way in America.
- jatotebs 2y ago
  You don't think USA are remotely involved in this decision to go after Durov? Especially with France being part of the 9-Eyes alliance with USA. Edit: I added on a mention about the close intelligence relationship between France and USA, for those not in the know.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > You don't think USA are remotely involved in this decision to go after Durov? Not really, no. If we wanted to nab him for goodies, we'd use a country without the rule of law. > with France being part of the 9-Eyes alliance with USA Telegram is unencrypted by default. The IC has no reason to mess with it. Also, it takes about a picosecond of studying Gallic-American relations to realise that Paris doesn't take instructions from Washington.
  - JAlexoid 2y ago
    Telegram isn't an interesting target for US govt, as its use in the west is low. US is least likely culprit here.
itake 2y ago
> The only difference here is that Telegram isn't USA-owned and doesn't need to bow down to the USA Govt. My understanding, unlike US companies, Telegram hasn't been co-operating with the EU? US companies are not perfect (see the hundreds of millions/billions of fines), but the US companies at least work with authorities.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> only difference here is that Telegram isn't USA-owned and doesn't need to bow down to the USA Govt The U.S. government doesn't like encrypted communications. But it's legally bound, by our Constitution and courts, in a way Paris is not. Nobody has been fussing about Telegram in a serious way in America.

jatotebs 2y ago
You don't think USA are remotely involved in this decision to go after Durov? Especially with France being part of the 9-Eyes alliance with USA. Edit: I added on a mention about the close intelligence relationship between France and USA, for those not in the know.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > You don't think USA are remotely involved in this decision to go after Durov? Not really, no. If we wanted to nab him for goodies, we'd use a country without the rule of law. > with France being part of the 9-Eyes alliance with USA Telegram is unencrypted by default. The IC has no reason to mess with it. Also, it takes about a picosecond of studying Gallic-American relations to realise that Paris doesn't take instructions from Washington.
- JAlexoid 2y ago
  Telegram isn't an interesting target for US govt, as its use in the west is low. US is least likely culprit here.

itake 2y ago

> The only difference here is that Telegram isn't USA-owned and doesn't need to bow down to the USA Govt. My understanding, unlike US companies, Telegram hasn't been co-operating with the EU? US companies are not perfect (see the hundreds of millions/billions of fines), but the US companies at least work with authorities.