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An encrypted system can depend on a trusted third party. Sometimes that trust is mandatory, like, say, a XMPP system used in an industry where IM messages have
by upofadown 2y ago
An encrypted system can depend on a trusted third party. Sometimes that trust is mandatory, like, say, a XMPP system used in an industry where IM messages have to be archived for future possible access to a regulator. Such systems are much easier for the user to use securely.
Most end to end capable systems degrade to trusting the provider when the user fails to verify the identity of their correspondent using some ridiculously long number. In other words, the user has to take an assertive action to become fully end to end where only the end users are trusted. Just like with Telegram secret chats. You can't just claim that such systems are not encrypted. Things are more subtle.
The headline here ("Telegram Is Not Encrypted") is misleading...
- lxgr 2y ago> The headline here ("Telegram Is Not Encrypted") is misleading... To an audience of laypersons, it's definitely much more accurate than saying "Telegram is encrypted". Maybe a better way of phrasing it would be "Telegram can read your messages if they choose to, or if anybody is able to force them".
- worik 2y ago> "Telegram can read your messages if they choose to, or if anybody is able to force them". Exactly. I.e: Telegram is not encrypted.