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First the foie gras, now this. Are there any other "Torture the creature before eating it" French dishes we should know about?

alnwlsn 2y ago
Lobster?
- AdmiralAsshat 2y ago
  I'm not aware of any recipes that force the lobster to gorge itself before killing it? Most lobster recipes usually involve bisecting the lobster's head with a sharp knife (killing it instantly), or dunking it into boiling water (which is probably incredibly painful for the duration, but ostensibly kills it within 10 seconds or so).
  - darby_nine 2y ago
    > I'm not aware of any recipes that force the lobster to gorge itself before killing it? Presumably the above poster is referring to the viewing of the practice of boiling the lobster alive as torture.
    - Morizero 2y ago
      Not OP but yeah, it's even illegal in some places: https://i.redd.it/9njvxxae6pad1.png https://i.redd.it/9njvxxae6pad1.png
dfxm12 2y ago
Why single out France or foie gras? When you look at factory farms across the globe, force feeding ducks is just one of many ways we torture the animals we eat.
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- codetrotter 2y ago
  > Why single out France or four gras? Because foie gras is defined as the liver of a duck or goose fattened by force feeding. If the animal wasn’t force fed, it literally wouldn’t be foie gras. Most other forms of animal cruelty in food production is because of industrialization. We could clean up many of those and still sell the products without so much mistreatment. Foie gras can only be made by mistreating the animal. So it’s gonna be specifically called out.
  - lechatpito1 2y ago
    This is a misconception, migrating birds naturally overfeed before taking their long flights [1] and a few farms actually produce natural foie gras [2]. There was also a NYT article about a farm in Spain producing natural goose foie gras by trapping migrating geese. [ref needed] Obviously this is totally marginal compared to the size of foie gras industry. See [1] https://honest-food.net/wild-foie-gras-is-real/ https://honest-food.net/wild-foie-gras-is-real/ [2] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-trends/tasty-foie-gras-without-the-burden-of-guilt/article4182065/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-tren... [3] https://modcarn.com/natural-foie-gras-in-the-wild/ https://modcarn.com/natural-foie-gras-in-the-wild/
  - iamacyborg 2y ago
    > Foie gras can only be made by mistreating the animal. This is not true.
  - salad-tycoon 2y ago
    Mistreating? They sure like to eat. Mistreatment if you were aiming for a long healthy life but this may not be what you are assuming it to be.
    - Loughla 2y ago
      It's certainly mistreatment. They're fed until they can literally hold no more. It's not great.
    - bobthepanda 2y ago
dgacmu 2y ago
Not french per se, but the victorians also ate "slink veal" - an unborn calf either spontaneously aborted or removed from the carcass after slaughter. Not too popular (or legal) today.
standardUser 2y ago
South Korea has that covered. There's a (presumably minor) tradition of eating things like fish, squid and octopus while they are still alive. Similarly, I ate drunken prawns in China, though I can't say for certain if those shrimp were stunned or actually dead.
wazoox 2y ago
Snails are put to diet for a few days, then kept in salt and vinegar to "slime out" for 24 to 48h -- probably quite unpleasant for them.

alnwlsn 2y ago

Lobster?

AdmiralAsshat 2y ago
I'm not aware of any recipes that force the lobster to gorge itself before killing it? Most lobster recipes usually involve bisecting the lobster's head with a sharp knife (killing it instantly), or dunking it into boiling water (which is probably incredibly painful for the duration, but ostensibly kills it within 10 seconds or so).
- darby_nine 2y ago
  > I'm not aware of any recipes that force the lobster to gorge itself before killing it? Presumably the above poster is referring to the viewing of the practice of boiling the lobster alive as torture.
  - Morizero 2y ago
    Not OP but yeah, it's even illegal in some places: https://i.redd.it/9njvxxae6pad1.png https://i.redd.it/9njvxxae6pad1.png

dfxm12 2y ago

Why single out France or foie gras? When you look at factory farms across the globe, force feeding ducks is just one of many ways we torture the animals we eat.

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codetrotter 2y ago
> Why single out France or four gras? Because foie gras is defined as the liver of a duck or goose fattened by force feeding. If the animal wasn’t force fed, it literally wouldn’t be foie gras. Most other forms of animal cruelty in food production is because of industrialization. We could clean up many of those and still sell the products without so much mistreatment. Foie gras can only be made by mistreating the animal. So it’s gonna be specifically called out.
- lechatpito1 2y ago
  This is a misconception, migrating birds naturally overfeed before taking their long flights [1] and a few farms actually produce natural foie gras [2]. There was also a NYT article about a farm in Spain producing natural goose foie gras by trapping migrating geese. [ref needed] Obviously this is totally marginal compared to the size of foie gras industry. See [1] https://honest-food.net/wild-foie-gras-is-real/ https://honest-food.net/wild-foie-gras-is-real/ [2] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-trends/tasty-foie-gras-without-the-burden-of-guilt/article4182065/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-tren... [3] https://modcarn.com/natural-foie-gras-in-the-wild/ https://modcarn.com/natural-foie-gras-in-the-wild/
- iamacyborg 2y ago
  > Foie gras can only be made by mistreating the animal. This is not true.
- salad-tycoon 2y ago
  Mistreating? They sure like to eat. Mistreatment if you were aiming for a long healthy life but this may not be what you are assuming it to be.
  - Loughla 2y ago
    It's certainly mistreatment. They're fed until they can literally hold no more. It's not great.
  - bobthepanda 2y ago

dgacmu 2y ago

Not french per se, but the victorians also ate "slink veal" - an unborn calf either spontaneously aborted or removed from the carcass after slaughter. Not too popular (or legal) today.

standardUser 2y ago

South Korea has that covered. There's a (presumably minor) tradition of eating things like fish, squid and octopus while they are still alive. Similarly, I ate drunken prawns in China, though I can't say for certain if those shrimp were stunned or actually dead.

wazoox 2y ago

Snails are put to diet for a few days, then kept in salt and vinegar to "slime out" for 24 to 48h -- probably quite unpleasant for them.