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> the lack of a statement from the public prosecutor Are you operating on the misguided assumption that every country in the world works like the USA? There i

> the lack of a statement from the public prosecutor Are you operating on the misguided assumption that every country in the world works like the USA? There is no equivalent to a public prosecutor in the US here. Durov has been arrested so a magistrate had to fill a mandat d’arrêt but it could be a prosecutor who is directly under hierarchical control of the executive branch or a juge d’instruction if it’s linked to an existing investigation. Neither would speak to the media at this point.

uxhacker 2y ago
As Blaise Pascal said, ‘Le silence est le plus grand persécuteur de la vérité’ (Silence is the greatest persecutor of truth). The lack of communication from judicial authorities, whether a magistrate, prosecutor, or juge d’instruction, only invites speculation. Transparency is key to preventing rumors from shaping the narrative
- dralley 2y ago
  It's been less than 24 hours, over a weekend.
  - cvwright 2y ago
    And yet they had no problem springing into action to have him arrested on a weekend. Funny how that works.
    - dralley 2y ago
      Police working 24/7 while the judicial system works on more typical hours is not news to anyone.
    - kranke155 2y ago
      You seem delusional if you're surprised police work 7 days a week to arrest a high value target, while courts don't.
- RandomThoughts3 2y ago
  > Transparency is key to preventing rumors from shaping the narrative Which narrative and why should they care? Durov is a French citizen who has been arrested in France following a clearly legal action. You will probably hear nothing from the judicial authorities during his garde à vue because one, it would serve no purpose, two, it's very rare to hear the judicial authorities make public statement in France especially for investigation which doesn't particularly interest the public and at this point the French public don't seem to care about the whole thing at all. I expect Durov's lawyer to make a statement at some point during of after his garde à vue however once they know what he has been charged with.
- ath3nd 2y ago
  > Transparency is key to preventing rumors from shaping the narrative True, but also maybe we can hold our horses a bit. There is an ongoing investigation. The story so far is that the French authorities arrested a French citizen. If you are under the impression that there needs to be a public statement on that, I gotta disappoint you. Citizens are placed under arrest every day, and somehow there aren't press releases on that. Sure, Durov is an important public figure but I am not sure the French authorities have a habit to discuss an ongoing investigation with the press just so they can 'prevent rumors or shape the narrative'. How I understand it, Telegram hosted publicly visible (read as 'non-encrypted') illegal content: drug ads/child pornography material, and failed or even declined to remove it. What is this attack on free speech here? If they had end to end encrypted group chats, this content would have not been visible, hence nobody 'd have issued the takedown notice and Telegram would have had the plausible deniability. But right now things are clear as day: what we got here are repeated failures to comply to a takedown notice. Which is what the CEO has been arrested on. We are talking about willingly and knowingly hosting illegal content and being a citizen of the country that issued the takedown notice. I don't see how this is an attack of free speech.

uxhacker 2y ago

As Blaise Pascal said, ‘Le silence est le plus grand persécuteur de la vérité’ (Silence is the greatest persecutor of truth). The lack of communication from judicial authorities, whether a magistrate, prosecutor, or juge d’instruction, only invites speculation. Transparency is key to preventing rumors from shaping the narrative

dralley 2y ago
It's been less than 24 hours, over a weekend.
- cvwright 2y ago
  And yet they had no problem springing into action to have him arrested on a weekend. Funny how that works.
  - dralley 2y ago
    Police working 24/7 while the judicial system works on more typical hours is not news to anyone.
  - kranke155 2y ago
    You seem delusional if you're surprised police work 7 days a week to arrest a high value target, while courts don't.
RandomThoughts3 2y ago
> Transparency is key to preventing rumors from shaping the narrative Which narrative and why should they care? Durov is a French citizen who has been arrested in France following a clearly legal action. You will probably hear nothing from the judicial authorities during his garde à vue because one, it would serve no purpose, two, it's very rare to hear the judicial authorities make public statement in France especially for investigation which doesn't particularly interest the public and at this point the French public don't seem to care about the whole thing at all. I expect Durov's lawyer to make a statement at some point during of after his garde à vue however once they know what he has been charged with.
ath3nd 2y ago
> Transparency is key to preventing rumors from shaping the narrative True, but also maybe we can hold our horses a bit. There is an ongoing investigation. The story so far is that the French authorities arrested a French citizen. If you are under the impression that there needs to be a public statement on that, I gotta disappoint you. Citizens are placed under arrest every day, and somehow there aren't press releases on that. Sure, Durov is an important public figure but I am not sure the French authorities have a habit to discuss an ongoing investigation with the press just so they can 'prevent rumors or shape the narrative'. How I understand it, Telegram hosted publicly visible (read as 'non-encrypted') illegal content: drug ads/child pornography material, and failed or even declined to remove it. What is this attack on free speech here? If they had end to end encrypted group chats, this content would have not been visible, hence nobody 'd have issued the takedown notice and Telegram would have had the plausible deniability. But right now things are clear as day: what we got here are repeated failures to comply to a takedown notice. Which is what the CEO has been arrested on. We are talking about willingly and knowingly hosting illegal content and being a citizen of the country that issued the takedown notice. I don't see how this is an attack of free speech.