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Major annoyance in Germany: If you find a mortar or a hand grenade in your garden. Do not try bring it to the police. Transporting it is a federal crime for cit

Major annoyance in Germany: If you find a mortar or a hand grenade in your garden. Do not try bring it to the police. Transporting it is a federal crime for citizens. Leave it in place and call them.

elygre 2y ago
For a second there I thought you meant it was an annoyance that you couldn’t just pick it up and bring it on the bus to the police!
mschuster91 2y ago
> Major annoyance in Germany: If you find a mortar or a hand grenade in your garden. Do not try bring it to the police. That's not an annoyance, that's common sense. I mean, I get it, it's not like in Croatia or Bosnia where every child ever since the 90s wars gets "the talk" not about condoms but about "this is how ammunition looks like, and remember that the enemy also placed mines in everyday waste like cola cans or in children toys, DO NOT pick up random stuff you find while playing and stay THE FUCK out of fields and forests marked with 'Pažnja mine' signs"... but hey even in Germany everyone should know that picking up ammunition is one of the dumbest ways to off yourself. The only ones actually dumb enough to do that are people harvesting leftover ordnance for its explosives or to sell it on to "memorabilia" collectors [1], and headlines like [2] are routine whenever one of these collectors/harvesters either mishandles one of the items or they go off on their own. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWGdxhSsS4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWGdxhSsS4 [2] https://www.rheinische-anzeigenblaetter.de/rhein-sieg/c-blaulicht/hennefer-munitionssammler-sorgt-fuer-grosseinsatz_a228914 https://www.rheinische-anzeigenblaetter.de/rhein-sieg/c-blau...
- blueflow 2y ago
  Are you one of these persons who like to have cops on their property?
  - bell-cot 2y ago
    Compared to your prior "Major annoyance" descriptive (for having the police visit), how would you rate being maimed or killed by exploding ordnance?
    - blueflow 2y ago
      As unlikely.
      - cdogl 2y ago
        I’ll take some police briefly on my property over that gamble any day.
        blueflow 2y ago
        Letting cops on your property is not a gamble to you?
        lupusreal 2y ago
        In Germany? If you hate the cops so much, that's all the more reason to let them deal with the sketchy bombs!
        tjoff 2y ago
        Very few industrial countries where that is a gamble.
        blueflow 2y ago
        Certain DIY things reliably cause questioning or even an investigation by the police despite being legal.
        HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
        *May depend on race
- floam 2y ago
  Gosh, [2] there is annoying with the line breaks or perhaps paragraph elements breaking up sentences. It really hinders my browsers’ built in translation trying to translate these sentence fragments as sentences.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    The tl;dr is basically some 51 year old dude had a laaaaarge cache of weapons and other explosives (e.g. from parachute emergency openers), of which some exploded for unknown reasons, firefighters and police showed up and found the remainder of the stash.
- lazide 2y ago
  Ammunition is generally not an issue, at least not small arms ammunition. Shells, grenades, and bombs are.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    I'm not a native English speaker, in Germany "Munition" also encompasses this kind of stuff. Besides you should not deal with "small arms" ammunition either, the explosive charges are no joke either and can seriously hurt you if you manage to accidentally ignite them, additionally lead is an issue.
    - lazide 2y ago
      In the US Munition covers ‘big stuff’. Like tank shells, artillery, grenades, etc. Small arms ammunition doesn’t have explosive charges? (20mm is about the smallest ammunition that does, with exceptionally rare exceptions, and that is generally considered ‘cannon’ ammunition, not small arms). Or do you mean primers? If so, those are exceptionally unlikely to hurt you or anyone else. Safety glasses are sufficient protection from literally setting small arms ammunition on fire.
      - lupusreal 2y ago
        50 BMG had API rounds, I'm not sure how dangerous those might be today but I wouldn't be eager to risk it. Also it wasn't common, but snipers on both sides of the eastern front did have explosive rounds for their rifles and those can apparently do some damage. Probably enough to take off your hand if one went off.
        lazide 2y ago
        API rounds are generally pretty innocuous except for some minor fire danger, same with tracers in general. Possible to get burned if someone insists on holding it when it’s going off, I guess. Raufoss/Mk211 50BMG should be more dangerous, but that is pretty modern stuff. Exploding sniper rounds yeah could be a danger, but I haven’t found much concrete info on them. Being on the eastern front (or in Finland) though, plenty of really nasty stuff mixed in around them probably. Edit: found something! And damn that does look downright nasty/awesome. [https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-62-x-54r-explosive-bullet-identification-needed/48150/7 https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-62-x-54r-explosive...]
jajko 2y ago
Well its supremely dumb to transport rotten corroded 80 year old munition that will kill you & others if it explodes just by yourself. I see it in countries eastward from Germany that from time to time some old fool brings such things to police station (either 'heritage' from previous generations or found in the field), with corresponding panic reaction (its not like your local police station are bunch of old bomb defusal experts).
tetris11 2y ago
I love German humour

Major annoyance in Germany: If you find a mortar or a hand grenade in your garden. Do not try bring it to the police. Transporting it is a federal crime for citizens. Leave it in place and call them.

elygre 2y ago

For a second there I thought you meant it was an annoyance that you couldn’t just pick it up and bring it on the bus to the police!

mschuster91 2y ago

> Major annoyance in Germany: If you find a mortar or a hand grenade in your garden. Do not try bring it to the police. That's not an annoyance, that's common sense. I mean, I get it, it's not like in Croatia or Bosnia where every child ever since the 90s wars gets "the talk" not about condoms but about "this is how ammunition looks like, and remember that the enemy also placed mines in everyday waste like cola cans or in children toys, DO NOT pick up random stuff you find while playing and stay THE FUCK out of fields and forests marked with 'Pažnja mine' signs"... but hey even in Germany everyone should know that picking up ammunition is one of the dumbest ways to off yourself. The only ones actually dumb enough to do that are people harvesting leftover ordnance for its explosives or to sell it on to "memorabilia" collectors [1], and headlines like [2] are routine whenever one of these collectors/harvesters either mishandles one of the items or they go off on their own. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWGdxhSsS4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWGdxhSsS4 [2] https://www.rheinische-anzeigenblaetter.de/rhein-sieg/c-blaulicht/hennefer-munitionssammler-sorgt-fuer-grosseinsatz_a228914 https://www.rheinische-anzeigenblaetter.de/rhein-sieg/c-blau...

blueflow 2y ago
Are you one of these persons who like to have cops on their property?
- bell-cot 2y ago
  Compared to your prior "Major annoyance" descriptive (for having the police visit), how would you rate being maimed or killed by exploding ordnance?
  - blueflow 2y ago
    As unlikely.
    - cdogl 2y ago
      I’ll take some police briefly on my property over that gamble any day.
      - blueflow 2y ago
        Letting cops on your property is not a gamble to you?
        lupusreal 2y ago
        In Germany? If you hate the cops so much, that's all the more reason to let them deal with the sketchy bombs!
        tjoff 2y ago
        Very few industrial countries where that is a gamble.
        blueflow 2y ago
        Certain DIY things reliably cause questioning or even an investigation by the police despite being legal.
        HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
        *May depend on race
floam 2y ago
Gosh, [2] there is annoying with the line breaks or perhaps paragraph elements breaking up sentences. It really hinders my browsers’ built in translation trying to translate these sentence fragments as sentences.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  The tl;dr is basically some 51 year old dude had a laaaaarge cache of weapons and other explosives (e.g. from parachute emergency openers), of which some exploded for unknown reasons, firefighters and police showed up and found the remainder of the stash.
lazide 2y ago
Ammunition is generally not an issue, at least not small arms ammunition. Shells, grenades, and bombs are.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  I'm not a native English speaker, in Germany "Munition" also encompasses this kind of stuff. Besides you should not deal with "small arms" ammunition either, the explosive charges are no joke either and can seriously hurt you if you manage to accidentally ignite them, additionally lead is an issue.
  - lazide 2y ago
    In the US Munition covers ‘big stuff’. Like tank shells, artillery, grenades, etc. Small arms ammunition doesn’t have explosive charges? (20mm is about the smallest ammunition that does, with exceptionally rare exceptions, and that is generally considered ‘cannon’ ammunition, not small arms). Or do you mean primers? If so, those are exceptionally unlikely to hurt you or anyone else. Safety glasses are sufficient protection from literally setting small arms ammunition on fire.
    - lupusreal 2y ago
      50 BMG had API rounds, I'm not sure how dangerous those might be today but I wouldn't be eager to risk it. Also it wasn't common, but snipers on both sides of the eastern front did have explosive rounds for their rifles and those can apparently do some damage. Probably enough to take off your hand if one went off.
      - lazide 2y ago
        API rounds are generally pretty innocuous except for some minor fire danger, same with tracers in general. Possible to get burned if someone insists on holding it when it’s going off, I guess. Raufoss/Mk211 50BMG should be more dangerous, but that is pretty modern stuff. Exploding sniper rounds yeah could be a danger, but I haven’t found much concrete info on them. Being on the eastern front (or in Finland) though, plenty of really nasty stuff mixed in around them probably. Edit: found something! And damn that does look downright nasty/awesome. [https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-62-x-54r-explosive-bullet-identification-needed/48150/7 https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-62-x-54r-explosive...]

jajko 2y ago

Well its supremely dumb to transport rotten corroded 80 year old munition that will kill you & others if it explodes just by yourself. I see it in countries eastward from Germany that from time to time some old fool brings such things to police station (either 'heritage' from previous generations or found in the field), with corresponding panic reaction (its not like your local police station are bunch of old bomb defusal experts).

tetris11 2y ago

I love German humour