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> They probably should implement E2EE for everything Certainly not because then Telegram would lose alot of its functionality that makes it great. One thing th
by medo-bear 2y ago
> They probably should implement E2EE for everything
Certainly not because then Telegram would lose alot of its functionality that makes it great. One thing that I really enjoy about Telegram is that I can have it open and synched across many independent devices. Telegram also has e2e as an option on some clients which cant be synched
- tcfhgj 2y agoYou can sync messages across many independent devices despite e2ee. Matrix has been doing that for years
- elcomet 2y agoEven whatsapp does it now
- medo-bear 2y agoDoes it? Last time I used WhatsApp I could not use it on my desktop without scanning a QR code each time and keeping the phone nearby.
- elcomet 2y agoYou need to scan the QR code only the first time using the desktop app.
- medo-bear 2y agoCan you use the desktop app without the phone present? For example, if the phone is turned off.
- tcfhgj 2y agoI have heard you can, for about 2 weeks. Then the phone must be at least become active.
- medo-bear 2y agoWith Telegram I do not have to worry about losing my "primary" device in order to access my account. Telegram is more a social network than a chat app. Moreover Telegram does not require me to feed it my whole Contact List in order to communicate. WhatsApp has this limitation on purpose (there actually are workarounds but they are "hacks" and not how Meta wants you to use the app). It is very suspicious: why can't I search for a WhatsApp contact by manually typing in a number into WhatsApp? Instead I need to put it inside my Contact App and grant WhatsApp full access to it. LOL
- gangorgasm 2y agoThere recently was a link making rounds here that purportedly allowed you to send WhatsApps to phone numbers not in your address book
- elcomet 2y agoYes you can
- medo-bear 2y agoDoes Matrix encryption scale? Telegram rooms have a huge number of participants. Also last time I looked into this, Matrix encryption was also an opt in.
- justaj 2y agoIn Matrix all PM rooms are E2EE by default. For public rooms however, it doesn't really make sense to enable E2EE.
- medo-bear 2y agoMany people seem to think that Telegram tries to be a Signal or Matrix replacement. I dont think Telegram tries to be any of that. If anything you can compare it to Discord, except much better. To enable synched e2e conversations accross many devices you also need to synch private keys, which is a security nightmare.
- tcfhgj 2y agoEither sync private keys or the messages itself. Why would it be a security nightmare? In contrast to not even supporting e2ee in the first place?
- medo-bear 2y agoHow would you securely sync priv keys? How would you securely sync plaintext messages? Telegram supports e2ee but it is device centric for this reason
- tcfhgj 2y ago> How would you securely sync plaintext messages? Same as with private keys: Verified e2ee > Telegram supports e2ee but it is device centric for this reason At least this is what they told you
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