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Microsoft should buy them out and add bing to get a bang for the buck. Building functional software as a ex tortion tool for intentionally dysfunctional ecosys

Microsoft should buy them out and add bing to get a bang for the buck. Building functional software as a ex tortion tool for intentionally dysfunctional ecosystems. 2024..

TillE 2y ago
Buy what? It's an MIT-licensed project.
backspace_ 2y ago
I strongly disagree. I can not envision this software being added to windows as some kind of system software without it getting messed up somewhere along the line. It is a great piece of software and does a specific job really well. Let's leave it as is.
DaiPlusPlus 2y ago
When I was at Microsoft I already knew the answer but asked around - just to be sure - and the reason is…. *drumroll* …It bypasses NTFS ACLs (because it works by indexing the raw MFT) Microsoft sells Windows as secure/securable OS: filesystem permissions must be enforced (of course, FS ACLs are a huge part of the reason why Windows’ files-on-disk UX isn’t the best). Yes, Microsoft could still buy it and then redistribute it as a power-toy strictly for single-user computers, but why would they do that? There’s no secret-sauce in Everything.exe - a summer intern could recreate it in a couple of weeks. Oh, and don’t forget the support costs from people who didn’t read the README and installed it on a multiuser machine and can now see the very non-Elizabethan-era file names inside innocent little Timmy’s My Documents\Homework\English\Shakespeare\ directory.
- taviso 2y ago
  This seems like a weak excuse, the same problem exists on UNIX, but slocate solves it well enough. The slocate solution is to build the index and record permission and ownership, then it can restrict output to entries you have permission to see at query time.
- eviks 2y ago
  That's a poor excuse: - permissions is also something you could store in the db and hide Timmy's files - Also, install requires admin, and admin can already see Timmy's files > but why would they do that? Because it's an awesome productivity app > Oh, and don’t forget the support costs Hard to keep in mind the legendary helpful MS self help forums costing a fortune to host! And the "few weeks intern" is just nonsense, Everything even after many years of developments still has plenty of room to improve
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- garaetjjte 2y ago
  Eh, it's easy to work around: run as a system service, and filter results when returning to client that queried it. More likely they don't like it because it's clever hack and filesystem developers would be aghast at it - but hey, if it works 100x better than built-in search maybe it isn't that bad at all.
fuzztester 2y ago
bing. bang. buck. 2024? er. heard this somewhere before. much before. embrace. extend. extinguish. ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extingu...
akimbostrawman 2y ago
they will never. windows search today is to increase bing traffic and show ads, much like the whole OS
- nirav72 2y ago
  Yeah, it has been pretty bad in win11. But at least you can disable the bing search. (For now)

Microsoft should buy them out and add bing to get a bang for the buck. Building functional software as a ex tortion tool for intentionally dysfunctional ecosystems. 2024..

TillE 2y ago

Buy what? It's an MIT-licensed project.

backspace_ 2y ago

I strongly disagree. I can not envision this software being added to windows as some kind of system software without it getting messed up somewhere along the line. It is a great piece of software and does a specific job really well. Let's leave it as is.

DaiPlusPlus 2y ago

When I was at Microsoft I already knew the answer but asked around - just to be sure - and the reason is…. *drumroll* …It bypasses NTFS ACLs (because it works by indexing the raw MFT) Microsoft sells Windows as secure/securable OS: filesystem permissions must be enforced (of course, FS ACLs are a huge part of the reason why Windows’ files-on-disk UX isn’t the best). Yes, Microsoft could still buy it and then redistribute it as a power-toy strictly for single-user computers, but why would they do that? There’s no secret-sauce in Everything.exe - a summer intern could recreate it in a couple of weeks. Oh, and don’t forget the support costs from people who didn’t read the README and installed it on a multiuser machine and can now see the very non-Elizabethan-era file names inside innocent little Timmy’s My Documents\Homework\English\Shakespeare\ directory.

taviso 2y ago
This seems like a weak excuse, the same problem exists on UNIX, but slocate solves it well enough. The slocate solution is to build the index and record permission and ownership, then it can restrict output to entries you have permission to see at query time.
eviks 2y ago
That's a poor excuse: - permissions is also something you could store in the db and hide Timmy's files - Also, install requires admin, and admin can already see Timmy's files > but why would they do that? Because it's an awesome productivity app > Oh, and don’t forget the support costs Hard to keep in mind the legendary helpful MS self help forums costing a fortune to host! And the "few weeks intern" is just nonsense, Everything even after many years of developments still has plenty of room to improve
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garaetjjte 2y ago
Eh, it's easy to work around: run as a system service, and filter results when returning to client that queried it. More likely they don't like it because it's clever hack and filesystem developers would be aghast at it - but hey, if it works 100x better than built-in search maybe it isn't that bad at all.

fuzztester 2y ago

bing. bang. buck. 2024? er. heard this somewhere before. much before. embrace. extend. extinguish. ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extingu...

akimbostrawman 2y ago

they will never. windows search today is to increase bing traffic and show ads, much like the whole OS

nirav72 2y ago
Yeah, it has been pretty bad in win11. But at least you can disable the bing search. (For now)