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For anyone not living in Paris: this is the very first question one asks when meeting a fellow Parisian.

tptacek 2y ago
For anyone subject to United States employment law: you can generally ask questions about where a person lives if they're carefully constricted to determining whether they can reasonable get to the worksite. Otherwise, questions like these risk being interpreted as a proxy for racial discrimination, in large part because they historically have been one of the primary proxies for overt racial discrimination.
- kergonath 2y ago
  > For anyone subject to United States employment law Dealing with both aspects is the joy of cross-cultural communication :)
- rpdillon 2y ago
  I think the interviewers were asking about the metro stop where the candidate worked as a method to assess the veracity of the resume item. Same thing for the question about what division the candidate worked in at Uber.
  - tptacek 2y ago
    Yes, and everybody who has been forced to settle out a discrimination case where the alleged facts included questions about the candidate's zip code had a reason other than "we don't want Black folks working here" answer, and if they were dumb enough to take that case all the way to court, they might even have prevailed with it, but in employment law it's the ride not the rap. I'm assuming everybody who's been a witness (or god forbid a party) to a protected-class employment lawsuit had their eyebrows shoot up all the way off their head at the premise of this article, which is "rooting out secret North Koreans from an incoming flow of candidates, in part using forensic interview questions".
    - rpdillon 2y ago
      I think sussing out whether people are lying on their resume is part of the interview process.
      - tptacek 2y ago
        I'm not interested in the axiomatic derivation. Just search for "illegal interview questions" and things like "residency" or "where candidate lives". I'm confident there's a way to handle this, but just Leeroy Jenkins-ing it with "what's your nearest Metro stop" probably isn't it.

For anyone subject to United States employment law: you can generally ask questions about where a person lives if they're carefully constricted to determining whether they can reasonable get to the worksite. Otherwise, questions like these risk being interpreted as a proxy for racial discrimination, in large part because they historically have been one of the primary proxies for overt racial discrimination.

kergonath 2y ago
> For anyone subject to United States employment law Dealing with both aspects is the joy of cross-cultural communication :)
rpdillon 2y ago
I think the interviewers were asking about the metro stop where the candidate worked as a method to assess the veracity of the resume item. Same thing for the question about what division the candidate worked in at Uber.
- tptacek 2y ago
  Yes, and everybody who has been forced to settle out a discrimination case where the alleged facts included questions about the candidate's zip code had a reason other than "we don't want Black folks working here" answer, and if they were dumb enough to take that case all the way to court, they might even have prevailed with it, but in employment law it's the ride not the rap. I'm assuming everybody who's been a witness (or god forbid a party) to a protected-class employment lawsuit had their eyebrows shoot up all the way off their head at the premise of this article, which is "rooting out secret North Koreans from an incoming flow of candidates, in part using forensic interview questions".
  - rpdillon 2y ago
    I think sussing out whether people are lying on their resume is part of the interview process.
    - tptacek 2y ago
      I'm not interested in the axiomatic derivation. Just search for "illegal interview questions" and things like "residency" or "where candidate lives". I'm confident there's a way to handle this, but just Leeroy Jenkins-ing it with "what's your nearest Metro stop" probably isn't it.