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Most people really, really do not understand the large amount of military traffic on Telegram, and the consequence of that during wartime... and how valuable t

Most people really, really do not understand the large amount of military traffic on Telegram, and the consequence of that during wartime... and how valuable that is to multiple nation-states around the world. Strategic comms, soldier command and control, battlefield drone command and control, intel asset management. Armchair analysts need to put on their big-boy military pants.

rafram 2y ago
Are people actually running drones via Telegram channels? Not that I’d be surprised. Very postmodern! But it just seems like HTTP(S) with extra steps.
- rasz 2y ago
  russians do https://youchu.be/watch?v=mwtbTuLZXWw https://youchu.be/watch?v=mwtbTuLZXWw
  - numpad0 2y ago
    Subtitles read to me like they coordinate operations on those chat apps rather than that makeshift guided missiles are running Android. Ukrainian Army is reportedly using Discord for the same purpose. 1: https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/126n9mp/picture_of_discord_being_used_by_the_ukrainian/ https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/126n9mp/picture...
- otabdeveloper4 2y ago
  Telegram bots do (what is effectively) simple firewall/LAN exfiltration over https. So you can host a bot server even if no ports are open.
hanniabu 2y ago
Isn't that the military's fault?
- est 2y ago
  most software developers let alone military contractors can't build proper chat app. Telegram UI and UX is top notch.
- numpad0 2y ago
  Lots of military forces are growing dependence on these consumer chat apps from grassroots levels going up. The only saving grace is that preferred apps vary. Transition to self-hosted or at least majority nationally owned apps is happening across nations at most at geologic velocities.
lkdga 2y ago
Additionally, there also is a large amount military blogger traffic from both Russian and Ukrainian sides. Telegram channels are quoted all over the place, even in serious press like Reuters. France could have demanded extradition for "lack of moderation" from the UAE ages ago. Now Durov enters France voluntarily and gets arrested after allegedly trying to meet with Putin. Witness protection program? Silly mistake?

rafram 2y ago

Are people actually running drones via Telegram channels? Not that I’d be surprised. Very postmodern! But it just seems like HTTP(S) with extra steps.

rasz 2y ago
russians do https://youchu.be/watch?v=mwtbTuLZXWw https://youchu.be/watch?v=mwtbTuLZXWw
- numpad0 2y ago
  Subtitles read to me like they coordinate operations on those chat apps rather than that makeshift guided missiles are running Android. Ukrainian Army is reportedly using Discord for the same purpose. 1: https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/126n9mp/picture_of_discord_being_used_by_the_ukrainian/ https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/126n9mp/picture...
otabdeveloper4 2y ago
Telegram bots do (what is effectively) simple firewall/LAN exfiltration over https. So you can host a bot server even if no ports are open.

hanniabu 2y ago

Isn't that the military's fault?

est 2y ago
most software developers let alone military contractors can't build proper chat app. Telegram UI and UX is top notch.
numpad0 2y ago
Lots of military forces are growing dependence on these consumer chat apps from grassroots levels going up. The only saving grace is that preferred apps vary. Transition to self-hosted or at least majority nationally owned apps is happening across nations at most at geologic velocities.

lkdga 2y ago

Additionally, there also is a large amount military blogger traffic from both Russian and Ukrainian sides. Telegram channels are quoted all over the place, even in serious press like Reuters. France could have demanded extradition for "lack of moderation" from the UAE ages ago. Now Durov enters France voluntarily and gets arrested after allegedly trying to meet with Putin. Witness protection program? Silly mistake?