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My company HQ is in SF still, not sure how much longer. I get to visit downtown fairly frequently. SF is so bad today that people just leave their car windows

My company HQ is in SF still, not sure how much longer. I get to visit downtown fairly frequently. SF is so bad today that people just leave their car windows open lest some thief accidently believe they had the audacity to lock their cars. Many major retailers that I was used to seeing downtown have left. The criminals and homeless run the show in SF. Really sad to see how far it has gone in such a short period of time. I'm not sure why X is leaving, but X is just another company in a long list of companies. Often they'll take with them the people who worked there, then there's just that many fewer functional citizens as a percentage in the city. When does it become a vicious cycle?

650REDHAIR 2y ago
I’m downtown SF all day every day. I’m all over the city all day every day. I never see windows down. What are you talking about?
- infotainment 2y ago
  Shh, you’re not allowed to say anything positive about SF, you’ll interrupt the ancient and sacred internet ceremony of people-who-don’t-live-in-SF-talking-about-how-horrible-SF-is.
  - 650REDHAIR 2y ago
    It’s wild because SF has its fair share of problems… we don’t need to make shit up!
- more_corn 2y ago
  My buddy lives in Oakland. We park and walk around lake Merritt. He always leaves the windows down. His have been smashed four times. Oakland is not SF, but the practice isn’t unheard of.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Last time I was in Oakland to do some volunteer work, the airport car rental staff said “don’t stop until you’re 20 min away from the airport.” When I had dinner with a friend in Piedmont and left her apartment after midnight, she said “you might get mugged on the way back to your car, sorry about that” which was half a mile away. It boggles the mind.
- tlogan 2y ago
  Yes - everything is great. Just go to outer Sunset or Lakeside. For example Stonestown Galleria mall - no crime there.[1] [1] https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/sfs-stonestown-galleria-hit-in-smash-and-grab-burglary/amp/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/sfs-stonestown-galleria-...
  - 650REDHAIR 2y ago
    Weird that the mall is actually a car with windows down… downtown?
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- coolhand2120 2y ago
  If you didn’t personally see it, it didn’t happen, got it.
BurningFrog 2y ago
Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you acknowledge you have a problem. There is still some way left to go.
the_snooze 2y ago
What's especially galling about SF is how brazen the criminality is. I spent a number of years across the bay in Berkeley, and I still don't understand why they can't put a stop to obvious menaces to society, like people who steal laptops out in front of people using them [1] [2], or repeat violent offenders who randomly attack citizens and police alike [3], or carjackings in broad daylight [4] [5]. [1] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2024/04/18/uc-berkeley-crime/berkeley-strada-laptop-robbery-update/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2024/04/18/uc-berkeley-crime... [2] https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/surveillance-video-laptop-thief-berkeley-cafe/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/surveillance-video... [3] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/11/16/courts/berkeley-assault-dawn-carraway-charged-elder-abuse/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/11/16/courts/berkeley-a... [4] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/08/22/crime/berkeley-hills-carjacking-attempt/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/08/22/crime/berkeley-hi... [5] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/12/08/crime/berkeley-hills-carjacking-amazon-driver/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/12/08/crime/berkeley-hi...
fnord77 2y ago
I live near downtown, actually I think the car breakins have gotten less frequent or people have learned not to leave anything showing. There was a time when you would see SoMa diamonds along the sidewalk all over the place (broken cubes of car glass). Haven't seen much lately. But SF govt seems intent on killing the Golden Tax Goose. They want to build a ton of low income housing and drive all tech out. Not sure how they think they're going to pay for everything once everyone who works and pays taxes are gone
- archagon 2y ago
  Tech is very far from “everyone who works and pays taxes.” Maybe rent will go down and normal people will be able to live here again.
  - fnord77 2y ago
    rents have always been high here. I remember people complaining about them in the 70s
archagon 2y ago
I have been living on Lexington in the Mission for about a year and I have yet to witness a car breakin. Everyone seems to leave their windows up.

650REDHAIR 2y ago

I’m downtown SF all day every day. I’m all over the city all day every day. I never see windows down. What are you talking about?

infotainment 2y ago
Shh, you’re not allowed to say anything positive about SF, you’ll interrupt the ancient and sacred internet ceremony of people-who-don’t-live-in-SF-talking-about-how-horrible-SF-is.
- 650REDHAIR 2y ago
  It’s wild because SF has its fair share of problems… we don’t need to make shit up!
more_corn 2y ago
My buddy lives in Oakland. We park and walk around lake Merritt. He always leaves the windows down. His have been smashed four times. Oakland is not SF, but the practice isn’t unheard of.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Last time I was in Oakland to do some volunteer work, the airport car rental staff said “don’t stop until you’re 20 min away from the airport.” When I had dinner with a friend in Piedmont and left her apartment after midnight, she said “you might get mugged on the way back to your car, sorry about that” which was half a mile away. It boggles the mind.
tlogan 2y ago
Yes - everything is great. Just go to outer Sunset or Lakeside. For example Stonestown Galleria mall - no crime there.[1] [1] https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/sfs-stonestown-galleria-hit-in-smash-and-grab-burglary/amp/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/sfs-stonestown-galleria-...
- 650REDHAIR 2y ago
  Weird that the mall is actually a car with windows down… downtown?
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coolhand2120 2y ago
If you didn’t personally see it, it didn’t happen, got it.

BurningFrog 2y ago

Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you acknowledge you have a problem. There is still some way left to go.

the_snooze 2y ago

What's especially galling about SF is how brazen the criminality is. I spent a number of years across the bay in Berkeley, and I still don't understand why they can't put a stop to obvious menaces to society, like people who steal laptops out in front of people using them [1] [2], or repeat violent offenders who randomly attack citizens and police alike [3], or carjackings in broad daylight [4] [5]. [1] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2024/04/18/uc-berkeley-crime/berkeley-strada-laptop-robbery-update/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2024/04/18/uc-berkeley-crime... [2] https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/surveillance-video-laptop-thief-berkeley-cafe/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/surveillance-video... [3] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/11/16/courts/berkeley-assault-dawn-carraway-charged-elder-abuse/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/11/16/courts/berkeley-a... [4] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/08/22/crime/berkeley-hills-carjacking-attempt/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/08/22/crime/berkeley-hi... [5] https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/12/08/crime/berkeley-hills-carjacking-amazon-driver/ https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/12/08/crime/berkeley-hi...

fnord77 2y ago

I live near downtown, actually I think the car breakins have gotten less frequent or people have learned not to leave anything showing. There was a time when you would see SoMa diamonds along the sidewalk all over the place (broken cubes of car glass). Haven't seen much lately. But SF govt seems intent on killing the Golden Tax Goose. They want to build a ton of low income housing and drive all tech out. Not sure how they think they're going to pay for everything once everyone who works and pays taxes are gone

archagon 2y ago
Tech is very far from “everyone who works and pays taxes.” Maybe rent will go down and normal people will be able to live here again.
- fnord77 2y ago
  rents have always been high here. I remember people complaining about them in the 70s

archagon 2y ago

I have been living on Lexington in the Mission for about a year and I have yet to witness a car breakin. Everyone seems to leave their windows up.