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ULID's presentation format is probably better for humans, though. You can double-click-to-highlight a ULID; the standard UUID representation doesn't like this.

ULID's presentation format is probably better for humans, though. You can double-click-to-highlight a ULID; the standard UUID representation doesn't like this. (You can use ULID's presentational tools with UUIDv7, though.)

wtetzner 2y ago
> the standard UUID representation doesn't like this. Yeah, I've gotten in the habit of stripping hyphens from the string representation of UUIDs in a lot of the code I write for that reason.
beart 2y ago
It doesn't help in other tools, but there is a css rule to help with this. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select
Lammy 2y ago
> You can double-click-to-highlight a ULID; the standard UUID representation doesn't like this. You can control this behavior in CSS with `user-select`. Peep my fiddle: https://jsfiddle.net/gLyph5km/ https://jsfiddle.net/gLyph5km/
- eropple 2y ago
  Yup, in a browser you can. In my terminal or my text editor or Slack, I can't.
  - Lammy 2y ago
    You're right that there isn't a good standard way to configure this, but a lot of terminals should be able to do it. The magic phrase is “word characters”. I know Konsole, gnome-terminal, iTerm2, Terminal-dot-app at least have this setting.
    - eropple 2y ago
      Yep, I know about that (and WORDCHARS in zsh, for keyboard navigation). The thing is, though, UUIDs overload the dash character. I don't want dashes to be word characters except for a UUID. (ULID representations also are shorter because they use a wider character set, which is nice though not critical.)
NetOpWibby 2y ago
Yeah I’m sticking with ULID and Sqids for my ID/slug purposes.
notpushkin 2y ago
> You can use ULID's presentational tools with UUIDv7, though. I did that, works pretty good: https://codeberg.org/prettyid/python https://codeberg.org/prettyid/python Some more context in a sibling thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41355218 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41355218

wtetzner 2y ago

> the standard UUID representation doesn't like this. Yeah, I've gotten in the habit of stripping hyphens from the string representation of UUIDs in a lot of the code I write for that reason.

beart 2y ago

It doesn't help in other tools, but there is a css rule to help with this. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/user-select

Lammy 2y ago

> You can double-click-to-highlight a ULID; the standard UUID representation doesn't like this. You can control this behavior in CSS with `user-select`. Peep my fiddle: https://jsfiddle.net/gLyph5km/ https://jsfiddle.net/gLyph5km/

eropple 2y ago
Yup, in a browser you can. In my terminal or my text editor or Slack, I can't.
- Lammy 2y ago
  You're right that there isn't a good standard way to configure this, but a lot of terminals should be able to do it. The magic phrase is “word characters”. I know Konsole, gnome-terminal, iTerm2, Terminal-dot-app at least have this setting.
  - eropple 2y ago
    Yep, I know about that (and WORDCHARS in zsh, for keyboard navigation). The thing is, though, UUIDs overload the dash character. I don't want dashes to be word characters except for a UUID. (ULID representations also are shorter because they use a wider character set, which is nice though not critical.)

NetOpWibby 2y ago

Yeah I’m sticking with ULID and Sqids for my ID/slug purposes.

notpushkin 2y ago

> You can use ULID's presentational tools with UUIDv7, though. I did that, works pretty good: https://codeberg.org/prettyid/python https://codeberg.org/prettyid/python Some more context in a sibling thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41355218 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41355218