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City and traffic planers of Hamburg and Hannover visited LA in the 50ties and 60ties to bring the "car centric principles" over to German big cities. For exampl
by Aldipower 2y ago
City and traffic planers of Hamburg and Hannover visited LA in the 50ties and 60ties to bring the "car centric principles" over to German big cities. For example in Hamburg a fully develop tram network was removed to make more space for the car. Neighbourhoods were divided to bring streets with 6 lanes through it. Wider streets is not necessarily less traffic jam.. We know this now. But until today we deal with those decisions, but it is getting better and we already reverted some things to make the city more friendly for people instead of cars.
- bluescrn 2y agoWorld population was 2.5bil in 1950. Cars would be far less of a problem if that was still the case.
- Aldipower 2y agoSo what, population in Hamburg in the 50ties was 1.7mil now it is 1.8mil. I am talking about cities, not the country side.
- nosianu 2y agoInteresting, but to me that raises the next question - even if the city itself did not grow, how about the surrounding communities? I think most of the time traffic still increased significantly, because of much more traffic across the (unchanged) city borders into the surrounding communities. It's called "Metropol-Region Hamburg" (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolregion_Hamburg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolregion_Hamburg), it's not just the city itself.
- Aldipower 2y agoThat is is true, the complete "Metropol-Region Hamburg" has a total population of around 3mil. Not sure how it was in the 50ties. There are also a lot of commuters coming from the suburbs to the city center every day. Mostly by train and also car of course. IMHO the train must be even more expanded and improved. But of course not everybody is commuting. There is also a lot of work in the suburbs itself available. Those are mostly smaller cities with its very own life.
- llamaimperative 2y agoPopulation growth: totally unforeseeable in 1950?
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- tecleandor 2y agoHannover and Hamburg population is roughly the same now than in the 50's and 60's. Or even less depending on the year you pick.
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- Asraelite 2y agoI can understand how it could have been a good idea at the time. Car ownership had only recently become mainstream and was rapidly growing as the dominant form of transport. Redesigning cities that have historically catered to pedestrians and horses to be ready for the transport of the future was quite forward-thinking, however poorly it turned out.