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They're trying to be as eco as the Paris olympics that had athletes complaining about the heat (A/C is not eco), food (i suppose decent food wasn't eco) and the

They're trying to be as eco as the Paris olympics that had athletes complaining about the heat (A/C is not eco), food (i suppose decent food wasn't eco) and the uncomfortable cardboard beds (wood isn't eco now?)?

userbinator 2y ago
Virtue-signaling at its finest.
- bedobi 2y ago
  yeah never mind that they (permanently, not just temporarily for the olympics) outright repurposed what used to be urban highways through the center of the city (including along the seine!) and implemented any number of huge environmental improvements
  - userbinator 2y ago
    Neither me, nor a significant number of the population, would call those "environmental improvements".
    - bedobi 2y ago
      right, replacing millions of trips by car through the center of the city with on foot or bike or transit instead is not an environmental improvement thanks for being transparent about not being serious
      - userbinator 2y ago
        It's not an improvement to those who don't want to be treated like cattle.
        bedobi 2y ago
        Traveling through a city on foot, bike and transit is “being treated like cattle”? You prefer sitting in gridlocked traffic in a personal automobile instead, because that’s less like “cattle”? Ok. But decent people have the right to their freedom of transporting themselves on foot and by bike and transit, and to be free from the danger and pollution caused by entitled people making unnecessary trips in personal automobiles. Facts, and the rights of everyone else, do not end where your feelings and opinions begin.
        userbinator 2y ago
        Go ahead and let the MSM brainwash you into thinking "decent people" should behave like cattle, to be herded into factory-farm cities and given no means of locomotion other than by their own power or that owned by the state. As much as 1984 is often brought up here, Animal Farm should also be mentioned as a cautionary tale.
        bedobi 2y ago
        Paris is one of the most desirable places to live in the world. I assure you the people who fight tooth and nail to live there don't need to be "herded" there by the government. > no means of locomotion other than by their own power or that owned by the state wow, so much edge, what a juicy take! let's analyze it what exactly is wrong by making short trips that can readily be made on foot or bike on foot or bike? why would it instead be desirable to walk to a parked car, drive through one of the densest, most congested urban spaces on the planet (probably taking longer than just walking or riding a bike), polluting and endangering yourself and others, and then have to look and pay for a park at your destination? (parking has never been easy to find in central Paris) like, I'm just at loss, is it the fact that it's healthier and you hate being healthy? that it keeps the air clean and doesn't endanger people, and you prefer everyone pollute and endanger each other instead? have you never taken a walk or breathed fresh air? most people like doing that. is it that it's free and you hate poor people and want to contain them to specific areas they can't exist outside of if they can't afford to drive? enlighten us? but ok, let's say you travel by car. you then have to be in state databases, subject yourself and your vehicle to fitness requirements, and you will be subject to far more laws and regulations while transporting yourself, including but not limited to speed cameras, breath tests, having appropriate insurance, police stops etc etc. you will also be traveling on state owned roads. is it that you like this degree of state interference in your life, you think it's desirable for the state to invade every aspect of something as simple as how you get around every day?
ecshafer 2y ago
Of course wood isnt eco friendly, do you think that stuff grows on trees? Its better to take that wood, process it into a pulp, add some industrial solvents, and then turn it into cardboard.
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- simion314 2y ago
  >Of course wood isnt eco friendly, do you think that stuff grows on trees? Its better to take that wood, process it into a pulp, add some industrial solvents, and then turn it into cardboard. Have you think that they maybe are smart and the good wood is made into planks and the bad parts of the wood and the remains is recycled like that ? Maybe I am wrong and you have information that the people that made the furniture for France are stupid, then show me a credible source.
bedobi 2y ago
people like you and the others chiming in to agree with you need to get a grip trust fools to pile in and go "well akshully the olympics are not environmentally friendly because they fly people in from all over the world" bla bla ok like no one is dumb enough to think the olympics are environmentally friendly the point is can the host location inspire and serve as not only a vision but actual demonstrated, already existing, already implemented and smooth running proof that cities can function better and be more environmentally friendly for the actual inhabitants who already live and will continue to live there after the olympics the Paris olympics were very successful on any metric, including how well they showcased the ability to move hundreds of thousands of people through urban spaces where cars have been relegated to undesired intruder status Paris has made extremely impressive progress especially for people on foot and bike in a very short amount of time (and they're permanent, not just temporary for the olympics) this should be well deservedly recognized and celebrated
- nottorp 2y ago
  Getting rid of the traffic is fine. Sabotaging the competitors in the name of eco friendliness isn't. Tbh considering the heat waves the lack of a/c can be considered a health hazard...

userbinator 2y ago

Virtue-signaling at its finest.

bedobi 2y ago
yeah never mind that they (permanently, not just temporarily for the olympics) outright repurposed what used to be urban highways through the center of the city (including along the seine!) and implemented any number of huge environmental improvements
- userbinator 2y ago
  Neither me, nor a significant number of the population, would call those "environmental improvements".
  - bedobi 2y ago
    right, replacing millions of trips by car through the center of the city with on foot or bike or transit instead is not an environmental improvement thanks for being transparent about not being serious
    - userbinator 2y ago
      It's not an improvement to those who don't want to be treated like cattle.
      - bedobi 2y ago
        Traveling through a city on foot, bike and transit is “being treated like cattle”? You prefer sitting in gridlocked traffic in a personal automobile instead, because that’s less like “cattle”? Ok. But decent people have the right to their freedom of transporting themselves on foot and by bike and transit, and to be free from the danger and pollution caused by entitled people making unnecessary trips in personal automobiles. Facts, and the rights of everyone else, do not end where your feelings and opinions begin.
        userbinator 2y ago
        Go ahead and let the MSM brainwash you into thinking "decent people" should behave like cattle, to be herded into factory-farm cities and given no means of locomotion other than by their own power or that owned by the state. As much as 1984 is often brought up here, Animal Farm should also be mentioned as a cautionary tale.
        bedobi 2y ago
        Paris is one of the most desirable places to live in the world. I assure you the people who fight tooth and nail to live there don't need to be "herded" there by the government. > no means of locomotion other than by their own power or that owned by the state wow, so much edge, what a juicy take! let's analyze it what exactly is wrong by making short trips that can readily be made on foot or bike on foot or bike? why would it instead be desirable to walk to a parked car, drive through one of the densest, most congested urban spaces on the planet (probably taking longer than just walking or riding a bike), polluting and endangering yourself and others, and then have to look and pay for a park at your destination? (parking has never been easy to find in central Paris) like, I'm just at loss, is it the fact that it's healthier and you hate being healthy? that it keeps the air clean and doesn't endanger people, and you prefer everyone pollute and endanger each other instead? have you never taken a walk or breathed fresh air? most people like doing that. is it that it's free and you hate poor people and want to contain them to specific areas they can't exist outside of if they can't afford to drive? enlighten us? but ok, let's say you travel by car. you then have to be in state databases, subject yourself and your vehicle to fitness requirements, and you will be subject to far more laws and regulations while transporting yourself, including but not limited to speed cameras, breath tests, having appropriate insurance, police stops etc etc. you will also be traveling on state owned roads. is it that you like this degree of state interference in your life, you think it's desirable for the state to invade every aspect of something as simple as how you get around every day?

ecshafer 2y ago

Of course wood isnt eco friendly, do you think that stuff grows on trees? Its better to take that wood, process it into a pulp, add some industrial solvents, and then turn it into cardboard.

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simion314 2y ago
>Of course wood isnt eco friendly, do you think that stuff grows on trees? Its better to take that wood, process it into a pulp, add some industrial solvents, and then turn it into cardboard. Have you think that they maybe are smart and the good wood is made into planks and the bad parts of the wood and the remains is recycled like that ? Maybe I am wrong and you have information that the people that made the furniture for France are stupid, then show me a credible source.

bedobi 2y ago

people like you and the others chiming in to agree with you need to get a grip trust fools to pile in and go "well akshully the olympics are not environmentally friendly because they fly people in from all over the world" bla bla ok like no one is dumb enough to think the olympics are environmentally friendly the point is can the host location inspire and serve as not only a vision but actual demonstrated, already existing, already implemented and smooth running proof that cities can function better and be more environmentally friendly for the actual inhabitants who already live and will continue to live there after the olympics the Paris olympics were very successful on any metric, including how well they showcased the ability to move hundreds of thousands of people through urban spaces where cars have been relegated to undesired intruder status Paris has made extremely impressive progress especially for people on foot and bike in a very short amount of time (and they're permanent, not just temporary for the olympics) this should be well deservedly recognized and celebrated

nottorp 2y ago
Getting rid of the traffic is fine. Sabotaging the competitors in the name of eco friendliness isn't. Tbh considering the heat waves the lack of a/c can be considered a health hazard...