Yeah, it wasn't a very good demo. The RIM guy wasn't very good. He's apparently the inventor of BBM, so maybe he's a bit more like your atypical engineer. It s

Yeah, it wasn't a very good demo. The RIM guy wasn't very good. He's apparently the inventor of BBM, so maybe he's a bit more like your atypical engineer. It seems RIM is keeping all of this very close to their chest, just showing enough to show people that they're working hard on something. We just don't know what exactly. Ultimately, it will all boil down to what the final product is. Apparently this will happen before year end, but we don't have an exact date. I agree, not having an exact date is frustrating. I think we need to wait a bit less than 6 months before we start chanting that RIM is dead.