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> air purification «Air purification» interpreted as "destroying all life in the air you breathe"? That would be an extraordinary claim and you would have to p

by mdp2021 2y ago

> air purification «Air purification» interpreted as "destroying all life in the air you breathe"? That would be an extraordinary claim and you would have to prove that it is a good idea. ("Air purification" can be interpreted to be about chemical and mechanical qualities, before the consideration of the living entities in the air.)

jstummbillig 2y ago
Let's go with "air purification" as in "what air purifiers are supposed to effect, as observed in the study being discussed in this thread"
- mdp2021 2y ago
  > what air purifiers are supposed to effect, as observed in the study Which would be? Have you seen details in the submitted article? I suppose this is the study (but the page is bouncing me): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844024067550 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240584402... I have an air purifier working not two meters from me - and it is an HEPA filter with forced ventilation. Not an "air disinfectant".
  - jstummbillig 2y ago
    Per this study, the number of sick days.
    - mdp2021 2y ago
      No, you got confused there. The point is "what kind of air purification" should we pursue. Correctly you wrote that it should be probably that of the study - but the submission does not say what it is... Rotating mallets? HEPA? Death rays? Carbon?
ClumsyPilot 2y ago
> «Air purification» interpreted as "destroying all life in the air you breathe"? Is this sarcasm? Do you want ‘extra’ life inside your body, like tapeworms and other parasites?
- mdp2021 2y ago
  > Is this sarcasm? Do you want ‘extra’ life inside your body Not at all: perfectly serious. We are in a system surrounded by living entities - some innocuous, some threatening, some helpful, some being the threatening food of helpful ones... Your body already hosts living entities that live with you symbiotic. Some of them have the extremely important role to keep the worse others at bay through geopolitical control (you remove them, the damaging ones have free course...). There are many more things around you than «tapeworms and other parasites». And they could be active part of a system (which could get unbalanced without a part). So: before stating e.g. that all other life (e.g. in the air) should be wiped out, an intellectual inquiry about the model must be given. You do not embrace what superficially sounds like a good idea.

jstummbillig 2y ago

Let's go with "air purification" as in "what air purifiers are supposed to effect, as observed in the study being discussed in this thread"

mdp2021 2y ago
> what air purifiers are supposed to effect, as observed in the study Which would be? Have you seen details in the submitted article? I suppose this is the study (but the page is bouncing me): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844024067550 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240584402... I have an air purifier working not two meters from me - and it is an HEPA filter with forced ventilation. Not an "air disinfectant".
- jstummbillig 2y ago
  Per this study, the number of sick days.
  - mdp2021 2y ago
    No, you got confused there. The point is "what kind of air purification" should we pursue. Correctly you wrote that it should be probably that of the study - but the submission does not say what it is... Rotating mallets? HEPA? Death rays? Carbon?

ClumsyPilot 2y ago

> «Air purification» interpreted as "destroying all life in the air you breathe"? Is this sarcasm? Do you want ‘extra’ life inside your body, like tapeworms and other parasites?

mdp2021 2y ago
> Is this sarcasm? Do you want ‘extra’ life inside your body Not at all: perfectly serious. We are in a system surrounded by living entities - some innocuous, some threatening, some helpful, some being the threatening food of helpful ones... Your body already hosts living entities that live with you symbiotic. Some of them have the extremely important role to keep the worse others at bay through geopolitical control (you remove them, the damaging ones have free course...). There are many more things around you than «tapeworms and other parasites». And they could be active part of a system (which could get unbalanced without a part). So: before stating e.g. that all other life (e.g. in the air) should be wiped out, an intellectual inquiry about the model must be given. You do not embrace what superficially sounds like a good idea.