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My opinion would be extremely unpopular, but: 1) The guy was marketing an open-text messenger as an e2ee messenger 2) Because of (1) he was able to moderate i

My opinion would be extremely unpopular, but: 1) The guy was marketing an open-text messenger as an e2ee messenger 2) Because of (1) he was able to moderate it and help law enforcement with locating criminals but he was not cooperating 3) He was extremely cooperative with Russian "law enforcement", as multiple deanonymised activists with leaked chats, contact lists and location history found out So, a hypocrite got what he deserved. The overall trend of EU attacks on privacy is very concerning, but Tg is not a private messenger, it just was marketed as one.

wetpaws 2y ago
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d0mine 2y ago
"unpopular" If we feed all the comments say to chatgpt and ask it (or just count by hand pro/against tg posts) what result do you expect?
dtquad 2y ago
Telegram within Russia and outside Russia are two completely different apps with completely different featureset and visible channels. The only "anti-war" sentiment on Russian Telegram is ultra-nationalistic whining about the warfare not being efficient and brutal enough. But outside Russia there are even pro-Ukrainian Russian-language Telegram channels.
- kgeist 2y ago
  I can find and open pro-Ukrainian channels from inside Russia no problem (Zelenski's official channel, UNIAN etc.) Not sure what you're talking about?
- holoduke 2y ago
  Please source for this. As far as I know there is zero difference. From within Russia you can access all pro UA channels. Same for in Ukraine.
- mboyarsky 2y ago
  That is just false. Try it yourself.
itvision 2y ago
> 1) The guy was marketing an open-text messenger as an e2ee messenger Citations needed.
- pshirshov 2y ago
  I would delegate the answer to another Russian company: https://www.kaspersky.ru/blog/telegram-why-nobody-uses-secret-chats/34543/ https://www.kaspersky.ru/blog/telegram-why-nobody-uses-secre... Also it's not really THAT hard to find "the proofs".
- pushupentry1219 2y ago
  https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram-is-not-really-an-encrypted-messaging-app/ https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram...

wetpaws 2y ago

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d0mine 2y ago

"unpopular" If we feed all the comments say to chatgpt and ask it (or just count by hand pro/against tg posts) what result do you expect?

dtquad 2y ago

Telegram within Russia and outside Russia are two completely different apps with completely different featureset and visible channels. The only "anti-war" sentiment on Russian Telegram is ultra-nationalistic whining about the warfare not being efficient and brutal enough. But outside Russia there are even pro-Ukrainian Russian-language Telegram channels.

kgeist 2y ago
I can find and open pro-Ukrainian channels from inside Russia no problem (Zelenski's official channel, UNIAN etc.) Not sure what you're talking about?
holoduke 2y ago
Please source for this. As far as I know there is zero difference. From within Russia you can access all pro UA channels. Same for in Ukraine.
mboyarsky 2y ago
That is just false. Try it yourself.

itvision 2y ago

> 1) The guy was marketing an open-text messenger as an e2ee messenger Citations needed.

pshirshov 2y ago
I would delegate the answer to another Russian company: https://www.kaspersky.ru/blog/telegram-why-nobody-uses-secret-chats/34543/ https://www.kaspersky.ru/blog/telegram-why-nobody-uses-secre... Also it's not really THAT hard to find "the proofs".
pushupentry1219 2y ago
https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram-is-not-really-an-encrypted-messaging-app/ https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram...