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Interesting, thanks for sharing. I didn’t realise it was such an active task. Sounds like it’s much more complex than just transcription.

by nojs 2y ago

tsimionescu 2y ago
Transcription services are still horrible if you have (a) some kind of accent, (b) non-standard terms, or (c) noise. They can be better than nothing if you want some meeting notes and no one is taking them, but they're definitely not something you want to rely on for an important conversation. A human in a conversation of this type has the major advantage that, when they're not sure they've understood a word, they can ask the other party to repeat it.
- vonunov 2y ago
  There are (still) actually good transcriptionists who will deliver a meticulous transcript with all your weirdly abbreviated jargon thoroughly researched (which can be a feat of truly impressive "detective" work at times), multiple speakers discerned, expert punctuation choices that fit the tone and meaning, etc. But it costs way more than most people can/will pay. I worked at a "real" (non-sweatshop) transcription outfit ca. 2012. Judging by my pay rate of $75 per audio hour at the time, I would guess that the really good operations these days must be charging close to $200 per audio hour. A quick google found one anecdatum corroborating this guesstimate: http://www.transprof.com/prices-faq http://www.transprof.com/prices-faq
distantsounds 2y ago
"you mean to tell me AI can't just replace a human?"
- nojs 2y ago
  Whisper transcription is extremely good. For most real-time transcription tasks I do think it performs as well or better than the average human at this point. In this case it sounds like the task is more active and involves actually thinking and talking to the other party, which makes it much harder. But for simply transcribing phone calls, the state of the art is very very good.
  - distantsounds 2y ago
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. I didn’t realise it was such an active task. Sounds like it’s much more complex than just transcription.

by nojs 2y ago

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I didn’t realise it was such an active task. Sounds like it’s much more complex than just transcription.

tsimionescu 2y ago

Transcription services are still horrible if you have (a) some kind of accent, (b) non-standard terms, or (c) noise. They can be better than nothing if you want some meeting notes and no one is taking them, but they're definitely not something you want to rely on for an important conversation. A human in a conversation of this type has the major advantage that, when they're not sure they've understood a word, they can ask the other party to repeat it.

vonunov 2y ago
There are (still) actually good transcriptionists who will deliver a meticulous transcript with all your weirdly abbreviated jargon thoroughly researched (which can be a feat of truly impressive "detective" work at times), multiple speakers discerned, expert punctuation choices that fit the tone and meaning, etc. But it costs way more than most people can/will pay. I worked at a "real" (non-sweatshop) transcription outfit ca. 2012. Judging by my pay rate of $75 per audio hour at the time, I would guess that the really good operations these days must be charging close to $200 per audio hour. A quick google found one anecdatum corroborating this guesstimate: http://www.transprof.com/prices-faq http://www.transprof.com/prices-faq

distantsounds 2y ago

"you mean to tell me AI can't just replace a human?"

nojs 2y ago
Whisper transcription is extremely good. For most real-time transcription tasks I do think it performs as well or better than the average human at this point. In this case it sounds like the task is more active and involves actually thinking and talking to the other party, which makes it much harder. But for simply transcribing phone calls, the state of the art is very very good.
- distantsounds 2y ago
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