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Why not make your community better by having your router also broadcast an open public network?

by breck 2y ago

patrick451 2y ago
For the same reasons I don't invite the entire neighborhood into my kitchen for dinner every night. If people want wifi, they can buy it themselves.
- cess11 2y ago
  They might be dissidents that don't want their internet traffic associated with their physical identity, which makes it quite hard to "buy it themselves" in places where cash isn't used or ID cards are commonly registered.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - patrick451 2y ago
    In which case I don't want their activity associated with my ip. Dissidenting safely is their problem, not mine.
    - hollerith 2y ago
      I agree. If my government ever turns evil, then I'll open my wireless access point.
      - cess11 2y ago
        What jurisdiction are you living in?
stackghost 2y ago
Because freeloaders and/or malicious actors will abuse my generosity
- wizzwizz4 2y ago
  Freeloaders? Well, yeah: isn't that the whole point? We're all freeloaders, in some sense, unless you think you've earned the water you drink and the air you breathe. By giving back to the Freeloader-available Resource Pool (the commons), you're becoming less of a freeloader. Malicious actors? That relies on there being malicious actors physically near you, which isn't necessarily a valid assumption. Set up a DMZ, try it, and see.
  - sandworm101 2y ago
    Your view will change once you see your home IP address on the search warrant. And no, i am not going to invite the public to share in my vpn too.
    - wizzwizz4 2y ago
      (A) That's not how search warrants work. (B) Having your computers spuriously seized for a police investigation is a risk shared by every computer user, but those investigations cost money. They don't tend to seize your hardware frivolously, except to intimidate (fairly common for security researchers, for some reason). If you have a public Wi-Fi network, and there's no reason to believe you're a culprit, they're more likely to ask you to keep MAC address logs, or shut down the public Wi-Fi network, than assume you dunnit and try to prosecute with insufficient evidence. You're at far more risk running a Tor exit node than a public Wi-Fi network, and most Tor exit nodes don't get raided by the police. Your neighbours are probably not cybercriminals. It's probably okay to be nice to them.
      - sandworm101 2y ago
        >> having your computers spuriously seized for a police investigation is a risk shared by every computer user Not where i live. We have layers of rules specifically designed to prevent random actions by police.
        wizzwizz4 2y ago
inkubus 2y ago
someone can do some bad tnings on internet with help of your wifi?
senectus1 2y ago
I fear what they're up to... Download or broadcasting CP primarily. who knows what freaky stuff my community gets into.

Why not make your community better by having your router also broadcast an open public network?

by breck 2y ago

Why not make your community better by having your router also broadcast an open public network?

For the same reasons I don't invite the entire neighborhood into my kitchen for dinner every night. If people want wifi, they can buy it themselves.

cess11 2y ago
They might be dissidents that don't want their internet traffic associated with their physical identity, which makes it quite hard to "buy it themselves" in places where cash isn't used or ID cards are commonly registered.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- patrick451 2y ago
  In which case I don't want their activity associated with my ip. Dissidenting safely is their problem, not mine.
  - hollerith 2y ago
    I agree. If my government ever turns evil, then I'll open my wireless access point.
    - cess11 2y ago
      What jurisdiction are you living in?

stackghost 2y ago

Because freeloaders and/or malicious actors will abuse my generosity

wizzwizz4 2y ago
Freeloaders? Well, yeah: isn't that the whole point? We're all freeloaders, in some sense, unless you think you've earned the water you drink and the air you breathe. By giving back to the Freeloader-available Resource Pool (the commons), you're becoming less of a freeloader. Malicious actors? That relies on there being malicious actors physically near you, which isn't necessarily a valid assumption. Set up a DMZ, try it, and see.
- sandworm101 2y ago
  Your view will change once you see your home IP address on the search warrant. And no, i am not going to invite the public to share in my vpn too.
  - wizzwizz4 2y ago
    (A) That's not how search warrants work. (B) Having your computers spuriously seized for a police investigation is a risk shared by every computer user, but those investigations cost money. They don't tend to seize your hardware frivolously, except to intimidate (fairly common for security researchers, for some reason). If you have a public Wi-Fi network, and there's no reason to believe you're a culprit, they're more likely to ask you to keep MAC address logs, or shut down the public Wi-Fi network, than assume you dunnit and try to prosecute with insufficient evidence. You're at far more risk running a Tor exit node than a public Wi-Fi network, and most Tor exit nodes don't get raided by the police. Your neighbours are probably not cybercriminals. It's probably okay to be nice to them.
    - sandworm101 2y ago
      >> having your computers spuriously seized for a police investigation is a risk shared by every computer user Not where i live. We have layers of rules specifically designed to prevent random actions by police.
      - wizzwizz4 2y ago

inkubus 2y ago

someone can do some bad tnings on internet with help of your wifi?

senectus1 2y ago

I fear what they're up to... Download or broadcasting CP primarily. who knows what freaky stuff my community gets into.