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Thing is, Linus says why something sucks. He doesn't swear just for the sake of doing it. I for one prefer real feedback to sugar coating. He's not a jerk for d

Thing is, Linus says why something sucks. He doesn't swear just for the sake of doing it. I for one prefer real feedback to sugar coating. He's not a jerk for doing this.

robomartin 14y ago
This isn't about swearing. This is about respect for your audience and the people you are talking about. There's a huge difference between saying something like: "Based on what I learned writing Git the people who wrote Subversion --who, at the time, created a great product-- may not have made the best choices" and what he said (paraphrasing): "...what you did is stupid and you guys are stupid..." The first shows respect and consideration for professionals that built a tool that was well-received and used by thousands to great effect. Yes, as things go, a different approach could have been taken. That is always the case with technology. The second form, which is the approach he took, shows no respect whatsoever for anyone and utter admiration for his own capabilities. I don't know about you, but you talk to me like that and good luck gaining my engagement in anything of interest to you. It would be over in a microsecond.
- rsanchez1 14y ago
  Well, in this case Optimus is not all that well-received, by the Linux community and by people who thought they were going to get a good gaming experience with an nVidia graphics card, but ended up with Optimus instead. Really, nVidia deserves little respect for its lack of work with Optimus on both Windows and Linux.
- ciupicri 14y ago
  I think you might taking things a bit too personally, but I understand your point of view and people dealing with you should be more diplomatic.
- sophacles 14y ago
  So your response to an egomaniac who says "look how awesome my stuff is you guys suck", an admittedly egocentric way of handling things, would be to say "im taking my toys and playing elsewhere since you didn't stroke my ego and protect my super important sensitivities from your ego"? How is that not a flaming pile of hypocrisy?

Thing is, Linus says why something sucks. He doesn't swear just for the sake of doing it. I for one prefer real feedback to sugar coating. He's not a jerk for doing this.

robomartin 14y ago

This isn't about swearing. This is about respect for your audience and the people you are talking about. There's a huge difference between saying something like: "Based on what I learned writing Git the people who wrote Subversion --who, at the time, created a great product-- may not have made the best choices" and what he said (paraphrasing): "...what you did is stupid and you guys are stupid..." The first shows respect and consideration for professionals that built a tool that was well-received and used by thousands to great effect. Yes, as things go, a different approach could have been taken. That is always the case with technology. The second form, which is the approach he took, shows no respect whatsoever for anyone and utter admiration for his own capabilities. I don't know about you, but you talk to me like that and good luck gaining my engagement in anything of interest to you. It would be over in a microsecond.

rsanchez1 14y ago
Well, in this case Optimus is not all that well-received, by the Linux community and by people who thought they were going to get a good gaming experience with an nVidia graphics card, but ended up with Optimus instead. Really, nVidia deserves little respect for its lack of work with Optimus on both Windows and Linux.
ciupicri 14y ago
I think you might taking things a bit too personally, but I understand your point of view and people dealing with you should be more diplomatic.
sophacles 14y ago
So your response to an egomaniac who says "look how awesome my stuff is you guys suck", an admittedly egocentric way of handling things, would be to say "im taking my toys and playing elsewhere since you didn't stroke my ego and protect my super important sensitivities from your ego"? How is that not a flaming pile of hypocrisy?