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https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/the-latest-car-fire-statistics/ https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/the-latest-car-fire-statistics/ *Electric vehicles are 20 times LESS

by jaggs 2y ago

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/the-latest-car-fire-statistics/ https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/the-latest-car-fire-statistics/ *Electric vehicles are 20 times LESS likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles*

blueflow 2y ago
Lets look a the costs for the wreck disposal.
- silverscania2 2y ago
  Yes lets
InDubioProRubio 2y ago
What is the rate of "User-interaction needed for fire" to "Stand-alone-fire"?
- lupusreal 2y ago
  Yeah, a fire that occurs when the car is being driven is a lot different than a fire that happens in the middle of the night when the car is parked in an attached garage. I'm sure the latter sometimes happens with gas cars but the relative rates seem relevant. I searched around and did find some interesting statistics; most car fires resulting in fatalities occurred due to crashes. 80% of car fire fatalities are men. This strongly suggests that reckless behavior is by far the greatest risk factor. https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-research/fire-statistical-reports/vehicle-fires https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-re...
pipeline_peak 2y ago
20 times less likely by average? There are a lot less ev on the road.
- silverscania2 2y ago
  > An analysis of car fire reports from 2012 to 2022 revealed that a passenger EV battery has a 0.0012% of catching fire, while the same sample indicates that ICE cars have a 0.1% chance of catching fire.
- racc1337 2y ago
  "EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold." https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/environment-energy-coordination/climate-matters/EV-less-fire-risk https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/environment-energy-coordinatio...
  - mirekrusin 2y ago
    Sounds like some "forgot to mention year sold/age" shenanigans.
    - jewayne 2y ago
      Yeah, there really should be something akin to human mortality risks available, but for cars. Human mortality is always divided up by age, and various car risks should also be divided up by model year.
- audunw 2y ago
  20 times less likely compare to an ICE vehicles of similar model and age. The amount of EVs on the road in Norway is fairly close to the number of ICE vehicles. So the statistics coming from those areas are very robust.
  - Thlom 2y ago
    Everyone I know and almost every neighbor has an EV. Basically every new car sold is an EV. None of these EV's have catched on fire as far as I know. It's not really a problem.
lm28469 2y ago
And 20 times harder to handle ?
- audunw 2y ago
  Not really. If there’s thermal runaway you may have to douse them with water for a few hours. But there’s equipment now that can help with this, letting the firefighters walk away while the car battery safely dissipates its heat.
jaggs 2y ago
Interesting to see some nice fossil fuel talking points in this thread. All to be made redundant since we're on the cusp of a massive revolution in battery costs and safe chemistry. Things are about to get interesting. :) https://theconversation.com/a-battery-price-war-is-kicking-off-that-could-soon-make-electric-cars-cheaper-heres-how-225165 https://theconversation.com/a-battery-price-war-is-kicking-o...

by jaggs 2y ago

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/the-latest-car-fire-statistics/ https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/the-latest-car-fire-statistics/ *Electric vehicles are 20 times LESS likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles*

blueflow 2y ago

Lets look a the costs for the wreck disposal.

silverscania2 2y ago
Yes lets

InDubioProRubio 2y ago

What is the rate of "User-interaction needed for fire" to "Stand-alone-fire"?

lupusreal 2y ago
Yeah, a fire that occurs when the car is being driven is a lot different than a fire that happens in the middle of the night when the car is parked in an attached garage. I'm sure the latter sometimes happens with gas cars but the relative rates seem relevant. I searched around and did find some interesting statistics; most car fires resulting in fatalities occurred due to crashes. 80% of car fire fatalities are men. This strongly suggests that reckless behavior is by far the greatest risk factor. https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-research/fire-statistical-reports/vehicle-fires https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-re...

pipeline_peak 2y ago

20 times less likely by average? There are a lot less ev on the road.

silverscania2 2y ago
> An analysis of car fire reports from 2012 to 2022 revealed that a passenger EV battery has a 0.0012% of catching fire, while the same sample indicates that ICE cars have a 0.1% chance of catching fire.
racc1337 2y ago
"EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold." https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/environment-energy-coordination/climate-matters/EV-less-fire-risk https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/environment-energy-coordinatio...
- mirekrusin 2y ago
  Sounds like some "forgot to mention year sold/age" shenanigans.
  - jewayne 2y ago
    Yeah, there really should be something akin to human mortality risks available, but for cars. Human mortality is always divided up by age, and various car risks should also be divided up by model year.
audunw 2y ago
20 times less likely compare to an ICE vehicles of similar model and age. The amount of EVs on the road in Norway is fairly close to the number of ICE vehicles. So the statistics coming from those areas are very robust.
- Thlom 2y ago
  Everyone I know and almost every neighbor has an EV. Basically every new car sold is an EV. None of these EV's have catched on fire as far as I know. It's not really a problem.

lm28469 2y ago

And 20 times harder to handle ?

audunw 2y ago
Not really. If there’s thermal runaway you may have to douse them with water for a few hours. But there’s equipment now that can help with this, letting the firefighters walk away while the car battery safely dissipates its heat.

jaggs 2y ago

Interesting to see some nice fossil fuel talking points in this thread. All to be made redundant since we're on the cusp of a massive revolution in battery costs and safe chemistry. Things are about to get interesting. :) https://theconversation.com/a-battery-price-war-is-kicking-off-that-could-soon-make-electric-cars-cheaper-heres-how-225165 https://theconversation.com/a-battery-price-war-is-kicking-o...