Similar experience. A basic conversation is all it takes to tell if someone can think properly and has real experience. To your other point, I’m not in the job

Similar experience. A basic conversation is all it takes to tell if someone can think properly and has real experience. To your other point, I’m not in the job market, but the market is brutal right now. It feels like we’re facing another big recession. It feels like the markets around the 2000 and 2009 timeframes. If we’re at that point in the cycle, it’ll be rough sledding for a couple of years.